JD Vance
I think above average in terms of extroversion, below average in openness to experience and agreeableness, probably above average in terms of conscientiousness. So perhaps "ESTJ".After high school, Vance joined the United States Marine Corps, where he served as a military journalist from 2003 to 2007, and deployed to Iraq in 2005 for six months. He graduated from Ohio State University and Yale Law School. He practiced briefly as a corporate lawyer before embarking on a career in the tech industry as a venture capitalist. His memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, was published in 2016 and adapted into a film in 2020.
Vance won the 2022 United States Senate election in Ohio, defeating Democratic nominee Tim Ryan. After initially opposing Donald Trump's candidacy in the 2016 election, Vance became a strong Trump supporter during Trump's first presidency. In July 2024, Trump selected Vance as his running mate before the Republican National Convention.
Vance has been characterized as a national conservative[5][6] and right-wing populist,[5][7] and he describes himself as a member of the postliberal right.[8][9] His political positions include opposition to abortion, same-sex marriage, gun control, and American military aid to Ukraine. Vance is an outspoken critic of childlessness and has acknowledged Catholic theology's influence on his sociopolitical positions.
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
He thought he was a woman when he was young and he dressed as female a bunch of times. I don't even think he has a true identity. He just says what he thinks others want to hear. LSE as typing seems entirely bizarre.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
him dressing as a woman makes me like the guy more, not the opposite! if he wore eyeliner, I wouldn’t mindOriginally Posted by Still Alive
guys got some spice!
This claim JD thought he was / dressed as a woman sounds very much like political propaganda targeting the trans issue. Do you have any evidence that claim is true?
When JD was young no one took transgenderism seriously or even thought about it, that crap took off in the last 12 years or so. Before then.... I don't think I'd even heard of or thought about it at all except maybe on a handful of occasions in my entire life, and most people were in that boat. The entire thing came wayyyy out of left field. Nowdays it seems like it's everywhere and for all you know every other random person could be non-binary but it was truly not like that at all before...
i think the rant originated from this: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-chec...165100903.html but I’ve never heard where he dressed as a woman a bunch of times, not that I really give a shit if he did, personally.
i never saw what the problem was/why people were going on about it. Lots of people do this sort of thing to have fun or be funny… personally thinks it makes him seem more real and fun.
the democrats were desperate though and were trying to find any dirt they could. evidently they couldn’t come up with much since they came up with this lol (makes him more likable imo)
he also evidently, according to them, ‘wears eyeliner’, and ‘is weird’. Terrible things!Also pretty ironic coming from liberals and democrats, which are such big LGBTQ whatever defenders. A guy cant dress in drag if he’s a conservative but it’s ok if he’s a liberal? Ok.
Last edited by Aster; 12-01-2024 at 02:39 AM.
They'd probably say that it's not the fact he dresses in drag, but the fact he's on a platform that's very anti-trans, that is problematic.... since it makes him a hypocrite. However... based on the photos being from a halloween party I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest he's actually gender confused. If the photos were from any other event or time then probably yes, there'd be a good case. Again, back 20 years ago literally no one talked about or thought about transgenderism, this wouldn't have been thought of in the way it is today. And he also has a hairy beard in the photo which... shows he's not going to very great lengths.
On a deeper note... to the libs argument, granting that he did have some gender confusion - holding an ideal while falling short of it is not hypocrisy, it's the ideal that would have led him out of his gender confusion, which 90% of people with the condition do come out of... hypocrisy is chastising someone for falling short of the same ideal rather than advocating for / encouraging others in the pursuit of it.
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 04:01 AM.
Those photos are such a nothing burger. I still think he is terrible. Fake hillbilly. Best friends with surveillance tech palantir and Peter Theil. Oh wait, is that a part of what Nero sees in him? I mean Trump. Need to monitor the citizens if you are going to control them ... and deport them. Tech Bros oligarchs.
It's not citizens who are being deported.
It's often their naturalized kids. But let's not get into a discussion. I already know you stand on the belief it's a great idea to round up and arrests hundreds of thousands, millions, of people from their homes. As if the back lash isn't going to break your entire society in half.
No, you don't actually know where I stand.
a) ICE is focusing on serious felons and gang members, which is the main thing I want, along with a secure border.
b) we heard the same rhetoric last time around - 100s of thousands slated for deportation - and it never happened.
c) I actually do not support deportation of DACA people, I support a pathway to citizenship for them. And people who have been here a certain number of years, who are entrenched - I don't mind giving them a pathway either. But single males who just arrived in the last few years... they can go back - they'll be fine.
Something you libs often do not understand is that Trump heavily uses exaggeration and hyperbole as a negotiating tactic and to bring attention / energy to an issue. The same thing is happening with tariffs - he's threatening a 25% tariff on Mexico but that's not going to actually happen, it's a negotiating tactic.
The trouble with your pseudo-compassionate lib attitudes is you never contend with the problem in full - you ignore the amount of crime operating at the border - just go listen to border patrol talk about what happens at the border. You do realize the cartels own mexico, don't you...? The cartel wouldn't be in power if it wasn't for the drug trade. Don't we have an obligation to Mexican citizens to secure the border? The previous administration ended remain-in-mexico on day 1 of the administration, and illegal immigration quadrupled - along with all the fentanyl influx, various forms of trafficking, etc.. Do your lib news outlets ever contend with that moral dilemma? Of course not - too busy high-horsing over select issues which are politically favorable.
Oh. I'm a "liberal"? Do these categories matter?
I'm well aware of hyperbole. I'm also aware that people often say exactly what they mean at face value. Believe a piece of shit when they say the things they will do. Why go to war with countries like Canada for no good reason, other than to create energy? You get off on drama and shit disturbing?
You're obviously pretty lib, yeah.
He just wouldn't be serious about true mass deportation because it isn't legally feasible - the court system will slow the process down significantly, there's a limit on how many he'll be able to deport - hence he's focusing on felons / gang members currently. You can soap box about the mere suggestion of deporting DACA people but it's just not gonna happen. Infact, in his previous term he offered DACA citizenship in exchange for border security... Pelosi / Schumer turned it down. He seems to just want DACA as a negotiating chip.
Let's list off a few of our actual problems:
- Mass immigration - there were 107K overdoses last year in this country, 80K of which are from opioids, mostly fentanyl. The Mexican government is overrun by the cartels / Mexican citizenry is living in bondage due to our buying of illegal drugs at the border. A nation cannot have a large welfare state with mounting debt and open borders, it is not sustainable, stop living in a fairytale and use your brain. And your administration absolved remain-in-mexico to intentionally open the border last go around, influx quadrupled.
- Total death count in Ukraine... no one knows but I've heard estimates of 500K. Seems reasonable to me, the war has been going on a while at this point. There are now North Korean / Iranian / European troops fighting in Ukraine, it's beginning to resemble a world war.
- country is 37T in debt, currency was downgraded August 2023 for the first time ever, just a harbinger of the inflation to come if we don't get it under control.
- the healthcare system is falling apart, this isn't getting enough attention.... It hasn't recovered post-COVID, at the same time baby boomers are retiring in mass... wait times are very long, especially in cities flooded with immigrants. I have a sister with leukemia and she's been waiting 8 months for an official diagnosis due to wait times...
You / the libs: soapboxing about deportation of illegal immigrants, almost all of which are *not* asylum seeking; your right to kill babies (easy solution - take the issue seriously and use protection, or better yet stop whoring around); the major importance of putting a black female in the white house; and the fact you've all collectively decided to go gay (which apparently is the most important issue for the world to focus on at the moment).
These are imaginary / exaggerated problems.
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 05:29 AM.
Cool story bro
It was when we told it to the electorate.
That's the consequence of sheltering yourself from exposure to criticism / relying on group-think and the media to maintain dominance... the public inevitably just rejects the flawed ideas.
Looking forward to Climate Change so all children born today can gun down millions of refugees that have lost their homes on an arbitrary defined border for giant nations that only exist due to fossil fuels. It's only a few more decades. Conservatives really will commit atrocities beyond comprehension, but it's ok CC doesn't exist and God told you to do it, or whatever cope they are going to invent for themselves.
I think the left should just stop participating in society. No more functioning schools, no more healthcare or the bare minimum. Just let conservatives rot in a world of AI and fierce competition that can screw you over at any time.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
You do really hate anyone that isn't a white man. It's interesting to observe that, and what the average Trump supporter thinks. Makes me aware again how much respect I lost for Aster for supporting that.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
I also think DogofDanger is extremly stupid when it comes to politics. Democrats lost because they send an unlikeable person no one cares about to run for presidency. Trump got essentially the same votes as last time, 70 million, he did not create a red wave or anything, it was mostly just the same stupid people voting for him like they always do, while Harris had roughly 10 million fewer voters. You wanna know why? Because she isn't left, dipshit. She was campaigning with fucking Dick and Liz Cheney who were warmongering Republicans and getting advice from fucking Hillary Clinton who is very unlikeable, too. You have to be extremly stupid to categorize these people as "left". In reality the democrats probably lost because leftists didn't care to vote for them while they were arming Israel to murder children and women and guess what DoD, you fucking inbred yokel, that's the same dogshit zionist position that you have.
Last edited by Still Alive; 12-01-2024 at 11:47 AM.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
Well that's because you have a severe case of Dunning-Krugers -
In 2016 there were 62 million votes cast... In 2020 there were 81 million votes cast... this is an increase of almost 1/3rd in voter turnout, and it's not like 2016 wasn't already a highly charged election. 2020 was by far the largest US election in history in terms of participation. The reason for the change isn't due to increased political engagement - people were very engaged in 2016 - it's due to COVID and the mail-in ballot measures passed temporarily... fact is it's much easier to cast a mail in ballot, especially if it's mailed to you - it takes time / energy to drive down to cast a vote, or even to pick up a mail-in ballot.... many people cannot get off work or feel tired after work, and so they just don't do it.
So when you say Trumps numbers in 2024 were on par with 2020 - no, 2024 was a regular election and the turnout was unprecedented. And Harris's 2024 numbers were on par with 2016.
What mostly happened is the left radically motivated people to get out and vote for the right due to creating a number of serious problems - a) lawfare, b) fear of Ukraine escalating, c) inflation, d) mass migration, e) trans hysteria. And Trump also ran a much more disciplined campaign, he wasn't as controversial.
Of course, you're not actually a US citizen so you have zero vested interest in our economic stability, or the stability of our border, or the breakdown of our legal system - so when I point these things out... well you just completely ignore them, they don't effect you at all. Hence you don't actually have a vote in our elections / your opinion on what our country ought to do is actually irrelevant.
Again, Harris's shift to the center was a calculated strategy, it was based on focus-groups and polling data... The core problem is the far left narratives are no longer working, and the left has ceded too much of the center. Both directions for the left lead to failure at this time... You need a new narrative. Climate change is probably your best bet, actually. At least there is some scientific legitimacy to this narrative (though you distort the facts to an extreme and discredit yourself in the process, plus lack any serious proposal for how to fix the problem / are ignoring more serious environmental problems, but I digress). You really aren't going to win elections just via woke bullshit forever - if Harris had the option of sticking with the existing narratives - being pro-immigration / pro trans / pro BLM and anti-police - she would have done that. Today the woke shit is just not popular, you might be in a bubble and not have noticed... you'll figure it out eventually. In the beginning alot of the spread / acceptance of these narratives was based on fear of the group / stupidity of the general population... gradually people get more educated, and bolder. When your ideas aren't based in truth & reason their lifespan is just going to be limited.
It's like the old saying goes... wed yourself to the spirit of your generation and you'll become a widow in the next.
We've been over this so exhaustively in the Israel-Hamas war thread I see no benefit of rehashing that here. Needless to say, it's a moronic argument since every war in history results in the death of children, for your argument to be logically coherent you essentially need to argue that war is never acceptable under any circumstances, which is just a stupid argument.
Keep trying!
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 12:56 PM.
here we go again with Ni base types throwing their favorite word at me. I just laugh about you saying Harris moved to the center from the left when she was Center-Right at best. You are too dumb to argue with. Why do you think I hate her? Because she is left? get a grip, idiot.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
When we speak of political alignment we're not speaking to some ideologically pure cult where we choose who gets to be in it and who we exclude from it... we're speaking to a spectrum of where the general population falls on a particular issue / set of issues. You know, because two goals are to a) win elections and b) represent the population.
In 2016 Harris campaigned on open borders, BLM activism, and trans rights. In 2024 she campaigned on a secure border, she distanced herself from the trans issue, and she said nothing about police brutality... Harris shifted from the left toward the center, there is no doubt about that.
You call the center position right-wing because at this point it is - you've ceded the entire center - that's the problem for the left. There is nowhere to pivot to, but I think what they really should do is actually go hard on climate change, if you want to know the truth. I actually don't think they can successfully pivot back to center, because it's just not believable. Maybe they can do it gradually but they need something else in the meantime. I would recommend they distance themselves from BLM / trans issues, however, because yes, truth / reason are not on their side here. And neither is the population, so... it's not a winning issue for them.
Keep trying
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 01:00 PM.
A shame when the population is mostly uneducated and can vote on issue like Climate Change as if it doesn't exist in reality. Physics will take care of that, though. As I don't have children, I don't care about human stupidity that much. I just see Aster's four children growing up in hell in 2-3 decades, but I doubt she cares much about them anyway.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
If you want to create a living hell for your children the quickest way to do that would actually be to get rid of fossil fuels, you will just collapse the economy. Meanwhile China / developing nations are not going to stop using them, so... very stupid idea which will achieve absolutely nothing and lead to mass suffering.
I see no way civilization could possibly deindustrialize yet continue to produce biologics for those with auto-immune conditions such as yourself. So this would be a living hell for you immediately - you'd be dying off in short order.
Well then let's just use fossil fuels for a decade or two longer and create a living hell for everyone in the future that cannot be reversed, brilliant. Let's also pretend that the issue doesn't exist at all and vote for the person who says so even though almost all scientists agree that this issue exists.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
The issue clearly exists, whether your apocalyptic doomsday scenario will happen in the immediate future is much more questionable / dubious.
I'm actually more concerned about us destroying the oceans - once life goes extinct it's not coming back. Your environmental policy is actually not nature-focused, it's human civilization focused (ironically). Well if you're going to be human-civilization focused you ought to strive toward that end, and minimize impact on civilization - not suggest radical policy changes that would collapse the economy.
You people seem to not realize how dependent human beings are on an economy for their survival.
There are 37 million people living in the city of Tokyo... which is just a giant slab of concrete for 100 miles in any direction, no crops are to be seen anywhere... these people wouldn't survive for much more than a few months without a functioning economy.
Also... Co2 does leave the atmosphere after about a thousand years, it's not like it's nuclear radiation.
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 02:09 PM.
Oh I'm very well aware of that. I am also very well aware of people like you telling the same thing 40-50 years ago that this won't be an issue and now we have all these unsustainable structures that will either collapse because we decide to do it in a somewhat strategic way, or they will collapse becaues we won't have a fucking global economy at 3 degrees of global warming. It's obviously going to be the latter, but I can assure you, the death toll will be much higher.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
The global temperature is not going to change overnight, people will have time to adapt to changing circumstances... overall you greatly overestimate how sudden the change in temperature / its effects will be while underestimating humanities ability to recognize and respond to problems as they become noticeably inconvenient. On the other hand, collapsing the economy would be very sudden and wouldn't even prevent global warming long term... for starters, people would not even tolerate it, they'd demand a new government, they'd rebuild afterwards... it would definitely make life a living hell for millions of people though - not something we will be doing in the US but you can keep going on about it I guess. I doubt it'll ever be popular.
If you had useful suggestions that didn't result in catastrophic upheaval it'd be another matter but those are very few and far between.
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 01:59 PM.
yeah I kind of figured that was what was going on, but this was back when he was in college. It’s not like it was recent. People can change their political opinions as they get older. Just seems silly to me to say he’s a hypocrite because of that.
And you guys! Shame shame! Haha just couldn’t help yourselves. I get it
I’m wondering if Vance could be EIE. Something tells me that might be it.
Your brain cannot conceptualize Climate Change. You talk like all conservatives do, the economy, the ocean point is even the exact same point Jordan Peterson mentioned, so I doubt you even have original thoughts.
https://youtu.be/Vl6VhCAeEfQ?si=buEKvn-7-NwciFT1
Oceans absorbing less and less heat, tipping points, humanity on track for the worst case scenario (SCP 8.5). It's clear you guys are uninformed midwits at best. We are annihilating the future of humanity and you people are voting for retards like Vance. It's clear our species is lost. Like I said, I don't have to look at 4 children and cope with destroying their future. I take comfort in knowing they will suffer the consequences of the actions of their parents. That's what I hate about this world, there are just no consequences to greed, lies and stupidity. Trump, Musk and Vance can just lie and make up bullshit and get elected, Harris can just be incompetent, get a nice well-payed law job and say she is going go run 4 years later when she would have been stoned centuries ago. It's all just such an obvious shitshow on the backs of the future of our children it can only make you go insane.
Last edited by Still Alive; 12-01-2024 at 02:47 PM.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
JD Vance - D-ESI
He looks a lot like a Polish politician Beata Szydło, another D-ESI. Interestingly, they're both similar in values and political role (Szydło is a former prime minister with a supportive role to a de facto leader at the time, Jarosław Kaczyński, from a right-wing party, with focus on understanding and helping simple people who were harmed by societal and economic changes).
Jordan Peterson didn't come up with the talking point of ocean pollution, that along with rainforest destruction was the main talking point the environmentalists would focus on prior to the Co2 issue - it's most of what we heard for decades prior... and it remains a major problem from a nature-centric standpoint, it's not mere propaganda the way you treat it - again, your argument is human-centric, which is ironic. The video you linked does a good job laying out current projections for crossing 1.5C - it doesn't do a very good job of cost/benefit analysis of the social policy proposals, or the social ramifications of crossing this threshold of 1.5C or other thresholds. Transitioning the entire global economy to fossil fuels has major social consequences - how long would that take, how successful is the effort likely to be, to what degree will this change the projection and what will be the change in social impact...? How was his 37T cost figure calculated, whose cost is it...? The man is educated in science but very idealistic about the global economies ability to turn on a dime and completely transform itself without massive consequences - those consequences are being left out of the conversation, but that's not going to cut it.
But as I said, it's probably the dems strongest issue and if they want to run on it in 2028 - by all means, at least they'll have something grounded in fact for once. But you're going to have to speak in tangible terms, with actual policy proposals, and careful analysis of the social consequences of any such policy...
The other thing I'll say is China / India are more polluting than the United States, and the United States will be less effected by climate change than countries closer to the equator - so when you talk about the US making catastrophic changes to its economy... if the rest of the world isn't part of the conversation it's a vain attempt. The Paris accords did not mandate the kinds of changes he's calling for - there is no precedent for forming a global consensus on something this massive. So what do you do when India or Pakistan just says... sorry we're not interested...? Again he glosses over all this in idealistic fashion because he's a scientist. You'll probably have to wait until these countries begin feeling the effects of climate change, feeling that alleged 37T in losses, to convince them... Well, at least at that point you'll know your models are correct.
If it's something that isn't radically disruptive like incentivizing electric vehicles I generally don't mind it, but if you're proposing radical changes that will be highly disruptive or even catastrophic... that's a much more serious conversation and entails far more than what's been included in it thus far.
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 03:41 PM.
I think Rockström is an idealist in the sense that he thinks the earth will only warm 2.7 degrees by 2100 when we have breached 1.5. recently and emissions are breaching record over record after each year.
https://www.euronews.com/green/2024/...d-high-in-2024
he also ends it on an optimistic note like all these IEI that work with the public love to do. Can't tell people the reality, gotta make it look like things can still change. He's center-left anyway and thinks we can just keep doing what we are doing but green. in the end, it's probably already too late and most of us will go extinct by the end of the century thanks to the conservative mind being unable to process it. Glad you had your little economy for a hundred years.
Last edited by Still Alive; 12-01-2024 at 03:40 PM.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
I'm sure we all did very Strange things when we were younger, it's just that we haven't campaigned for high office so people don't know. No one is suggesting he did anything illegal. The reality is he's probably as a straight as an arrow. In any case, it's not like J. Edgar Hoover Allegedly being a transvestite while being Director of the FBI and being a blackmail risk. And that was probably somewhat largely unrelated to his unsuitability for the role. There have probably been worse people who have been VP: not being able to think of any doesn't necessarily prove otherwise. There always has to be a worst, that's not Vance's fault especially.
Regarding the "couch-fucker" allegations: often, a silence can seem dignified and statesman-like, although unfortunately, the rest of time, it can seem awkward and make people wonder why the allegations haven't been denied. Again, probably nothing illegal.
Him considering Trump as "America's Hı̇tler" and saying he's a "never Trump" guy shows he sometimes has a good judge of character, and that he is politically malleable (probably not sexually, but there's not Necessarily anything wrong if he was), like many useful metals are.
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
But now you're the one ignoring the projections in favor of this doomsday narrative... the scientist giving that Ted talk is basing his projections on the evidence... he does not at all suggest humans will be going extinct, and not by 2100... he doesn't even consider that a possibility, he speaks in terms of economic impact.
This is the kind of hysteria we do not need. You can't base world-changing decisions on hysteria. If you were serious about addressing this issue you (really the libs) would need to do the kind of serious analysis and policy proposal I described above. Morons with no degree such as AOC proposing to get rid of cows in the "green new deal" without involving foreign countries in the conversation... or mentally ill autists such as Greta Thunberg throwing public tantrums / screaming at their parents... are a large part of why the environmental movement has been mocked / not taken seriously. I don't think that's a good thing, and I'd be happy to see serious policy proposals put together by intelligent people, based on a comprehensive analysis of all the factors involved... but we have not gotten that from the left yet. So blame yourselves for being hysterical fools, believing histrionics is the way to convince skeptical and stable minded people. It isn't... You know, part of what you (the libs) have to do is demonstrate you're capable of making changes in a way that's intelligent and doesn't both make our lives far worse while not even fixing the problem, you people fail to demonstrate that to me every time you open your mouths...
Last edited by DogOfDanger; 12-01-2024 at 04:13 PM.
I thought about brining these things up too but I didn’t have enough time in my earlier post. you beat me to it. I think you said it better than I would have anyway
I've got him typed as EII-Ne....same as I have Obama typed. Fi-lead is right, but I don't see him expressing judgments/emotional reactions with force like Marjorie Taylor Greene does who is an all-day ESI-Se 6w5 sp/so... Ne-creative compared to Se-creative also brings that ability to weave a tale of one's life that resonates with something that the majority of the electorate is instinctively groping for....also makes Fi-lead more lofty and keeps negative reactions and hot buttons more contained. I've also got Tim Walz typed as LSE-Te 9w8 so/sp so, ironically, that makes them duals...very delta style debateJD Vance - D-ESI
He looks a lot like a Polish politician Beata Szydło, another D-ESI. Interestingly, they're both similar in values and political role (Szydło is a former prime minister with a supportive role to a de facto leader at the time, Jarosław Kaczyński, from a right-wing party, with focus on understanding and helping simple people who were harmed by societal and economic changes).
weird, I was thinking how he reminded me of Obama somewhat.
you know how Obama wrote a book called Dreams From My Father and you know how Gulenko introduces one type as "romantic, dreamer and visionairy? I do
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
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