Your own vulnerable or PoLR expression

[Distance]

Wait, what are your two PoLRs? Si and what?

I'm a ILE ENTP, LP.

Inter Looping Entrainments

Ethereal Nearby Technical Patterns

[Lord Pixel]

I'm a ILE ENTP, LP.

Inter Looping Entrainments

Ethereal Nearby Technical Patterns

Oh ok, so you just relate to 1D Si on top of 1D Fi.

[Distance]

Oh ok, so you just relate to 1D Si on top of 1D Fi.

Si is like PoLR per definitions. I don't dig it, LP.

But:

Maybe i do. Wife is Dual, so maybe i do but i don't.

Thoughts?

[Lord Pixel]

That is a better idea, but he should learn to adapt to everyday interactions for the sake of getting rid of the possibilities of him coming off as weird. Social skills are still a type of skill set that needs to be constantly used to be maintained.

Likely if he doesn't learn boundaries and appropriate language, he would likely be rejected more often due to people finding him weird or disliking him. He would likely only have to maintain this persona until his relationship with his potential friend would progress into something more personal, thus he can eventually allow himself to reveal his true nature while also having a good sense of how his interactions are going.

We all have some level of inauthentic behavior in us when we meet strangers or people we are not friends with. It's natural to build friendships, and only reveal one's quirkiness later on, even when both parties have weird personality traits.

People are just overwhelmed by quirky strangers, but not by familiar quirky people they have already gotten used too.

I believe this is the best course of action for him to take in order to avoid a multitude of rejection that could be easily avoided from people he would actually be interested in befriending.

Even when you meet someone else who is severely strange, they still have their own boundaries, and it's best to read between the fine lines and ask direct questions if needed.

Though I prefer to be direct, being direct can only work with so many people, while being newer to actively trying to improve one's social life is not as skilled in such.

For a good first impression sure that could work out.

But I think if he tries all to adapt all the time he's just gonna come off more awkward. He has to get to a point of being comfortable with himself. He'd probably come off more easy going and relaxed if he was more comfortable in his own skin, it's more than likely not the weirdness that throws people off (ppl can find weirdness amusing) and it's more likely the uneasiness he has with his own weirdnes. If you are not ok with yourself then other people take that as a sign that something must be wrong with you, which is usually what makes people reject you because nobody wants to invite a problem in their life.

It's almost like having a dog that might look intimidating but if you tell people "Nah, he's chill." then most people will believe you, since you have more experience with the dog, but if you are afraid of you're own dog then most people are not gonna bother to find out why and believe the dog is scary for a reason and avoid the dog.

[Lord Pixel]

Si is like PoLR per definitions. I don't dig it, LP.

But:

Maybe i do. Wife is Dual, so maybe i do but i don't.

Thoughts?

You don't even dig if someone deals with Si things for you? Or gives you advice on how to deai with Si things? Do you delegate Si things at all?

[Distance]

You don't even dig if someone deals with Si things for you? Or gives you advice on how to deai with Si things? Do you delegate Si things at all?

I do.

Si PoLR is dreading it and wishing people to do it, from what i gather.

[Lord Pixel]

I do.

Si PoLR is dreading it and wishing people to do it, from what i gather.

Do you think Si matters are important though, like when you go into an environment and someone is not handling the Si issues, do you think "Why isn't no one taking care of things how they should be done!?".

Why is no one checking the medicine dosage? Making sure it's not raining before our weekend trip? Remembering to check if our order is correct? I said pepperoni and sausage, not fettucini and olives! No one even thought to wipe down the counters so we don't get ekoli?!

[Distance]

Do you think Si matters are important though, like when you go into an environment and someone is not handling the Si issues, do you think "Why isn't no one taking care of things how they should be done!?".

Why is no one checking the medicine dosage? Making sure it's not raining before our weekend trip? Remembering to check if our order is correct? I said pepperoni and sausage, not fettucini and olives! No one even thought to wipe down the counters so we don't get ekoli?!

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...Misconceptions

LP this can go in a rabbit hole of definitions; i found a wkisocion description of it in ENFj awhile ago and it mentioned disliking filling out forms, doing taxes, things like these and wish others did that for them. Like having a secretary for you wishing you had one. There's more to it but it struck a chord.

Also, in the link you can see it goes in wild directions. But it hits a nerve.

Thanks for your effort here.

[The Reality Denialist]

I have gone to strange lengths in order to minimize manual form fillings.

For instance when I had to do that at work I spent enormous amount of hours to program automation for it combining multiple methods (including fuzzy matchers, AI servers and so on).
This obsession turned into a product.

[Lord Pixel]

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...Misconceptions

LP this can go in a rabbit hole of definitions; i found a wkisocion description of it in ENFj awhile ago and it mentioned disliking filling out forms, doing taxes, things like these and wish others did that for them. Like having a secretary for you wishing you had one. There's more to it but it struck a chord.

Also, in the link you can see it goes in wild directions. But it hits a nerve.

Thanks for your effort here.

lol ok, so how r u not ILE again?

Like besides your PoLR, the fact that you are concenred about the definitions (Ti, and yes sometimes it is that simple)
and are still wondering about other possible types (Ne). I mean come on lol.

I find alot of Ne leads actually ending up meandnering in Ne endless possibility for awhile and it's usually AFTER they find out their type. Another datapoint to cause a hint of doubt and they are back swimming in Ne endless possibility trying to find their type again. No offense, it's just a pattern I've seen a bunch.

[Distance]

lol ok, so how r u not ILE again?

Like besides your PoLR, the fact that you are concenred about the definitions (Ti, and yes sometimes it is that simple)
and are still wondering about other possible types (Ne). I mean come on lol.

I find alot of Ne leads actually ending up meandnering in Ne endless possibility for awhile and it's usually AFTER they find out their type. Another datapoint to cause a hint of doubt and they are back swimming in Ne endless possibility trying to find their type again. No offense, it's just a pattern I've seen a bunch.

Of course LP. If i were to type me going by PoLR, everything in that thread, everything is me. If for the first time, ever, i saw that link, i would have said OMG! Meeee mmeeeeee, and me! Boom! I would have put ENFj in the box, and the forum would have cringed, thinking, when is this guy going to stop being Mr. Magoo?

What if i were a split type, like mr provocateur? That was the weird slant i fell into.

I know i'm not, but not everything lines up either.

ENTP 4 Eva poundtoeternityFeHababy! #######

[Lord Pixel]

Of course LP. If i were to type me going by PoLR, everything in that thread, everything is me. If for the first time, ever, i saw that link, i would have said OMG! Meeee mmeeeeee, and me! Boom! I would have put ENFj in the box, and the forum would have cringed, thinking, when is this guy going to stop being Mr. Magoo?

What if i were a split type, like mr provocateur? That was the weird slant i fell into.

I know i'm not, but not everything lines up either.

ENTP 4 Eva poundtoeternityFeHababy! #######

Oh ok.

[Distance]

For new comers.

*Bump*

[fiorale]

If I know I'm good/have good intentions, then everyone else must know I'm a good person, because it's such an obvious thing. I don't need to explain myself or go with the flow/take care of the mood of the group at this moment; in fact, doing so would compromise my goodness, making me unsure whether other people's agreement come from truly seeing how good my suggestions are or simple reciprocity because I have agreed with/took care of them.

This line of thinking is of course too black and white and not realistic at all.

[Charus]

It depends, I generaly have aversion to the emotional atmosphere of the place I am in, It's not that I can't see it, It's just that I am apathetic to it most of the time. Generaly speaking, sometimes I have discomfort towards strong emotional expressions, either I find them stupid or corny, and I just cringe everytime someone is being overly-dramatic.

I also have moments where others complain to me and say to me "You know, we are not machines, we have flaws", and I find it annoying as It's an excuse for people for their incompetence. In other words, It's like people perceive me as not caring about their feelings, despite trying my best to do so, even if It goes against my own independent nature.

[SacredKnowing]

It depends, I generaly have aversion to the emotional atmosphere of the place I am in, It's not that I can't see it, It's just that I am apathetic to it most of the time. Generaly speaking, sometimes I have discomfort towards strong emotional expressions, either I find them stupid or corny, and I just cringe everytime someone is being overly-dramatic.

I also have moments where others complain to me and say to me "You know, we are not machines, we have flaws", and I find it annoying as It's an excuse for people for their incompetence. In other words, It's like people perceive me as not caring about their feelings, despite trying my best to do so, even if It goes against my own independent nature.

Look up constructivist vs. emotivist. In Model A, the functions are placed in a 2 × 4 matrix, with the rank determined by whether the functions are inert versus contact. Because it is a part of the design of Model A that the Feeler functions must remain cis, therefore everyone has feelers that are either on the inert side, and cannot integrate information from its environment, or on the contact side, and has an easy time integrating information from its environment.

Do you have a tendency to replay a favorite video game or movie over and over again?

[Distance]

* Raises hand vote for Constructivist* I def. am Obstinate Reinin + here too in this category.

I repeat experiences to hold the sameness with inertia and avoidance of negative emotional content like a plague, being bound and affectedly reprogrammed as mired into blackness in a quicksand.

Bumper sticker effect = drive away from bumpy roads, stay smooth in a groove with your moves.

[Charus]

Look up constructivist vs. emotivist. In Model A, the functions are placed in a 2 × 4 matrix, with the rank determined by whether the functions are inert versus contact. Because it is a part of the design of Model A that the Feeler functions must remain cis, therefore everyone has feelers that are either on the inert side, and cannot integrate information from its environment, or on the contact side, and has an easy time integrating information from its environment.

Do you have a tendency to replay a favorite video game or movie over and over again?

Yes, I do like to replay a favourite video game, and regarding movies, I also like to rewatch the same youtube videos or music, and occasionaly I like to revisit the same places over and over again, but ofcouse that is not to say I may not explore new things if I am in the mood for so. ILI's are regarded as constructivists, and yeah, constructivist fits me much more than emotivist, I can confirm. I can also confirm that I tend to talk in a business manner with other people a lot, I may like try my best to exchange polite words with others, and generaly I want the discussions to be beneficial, where I may learn new things, like knowledge and ideas, basicaly to have conversations that are meaningful. But there are also negative experiences that I would try to avoid as much as possible.

Te is contact function, because It's a thinking function and it is extroverted, while ILI's have valued Fi (Feeling that is introverted) in their super-id block which is inert ethic function.

[The Reality Denialist]

Cocoa powder makes a great lunch.

[Muira]

Yes, I do like to replay a favourite video game, and regarding movies, I also like to rewatch the same youtube videos or music, and occasionaly I like to revisit the same places over and over again, but ofcouse that is not to say I may not explore new things if I am in the mood for so. ILI's are regarded as constructivists, and yeah, constructivist fits me much more than emotivist, I can confirm. I can also confirm that I tend to talk in a business manner with other people a lot, I may like try my best to exchange polite words with others, and generaly I want the discussions to be beneficial, where I may learn new things, like knowledge and ideas, basicaly to have conversations that are meaningful. But there are also negative experiences that I would try to avoid as much as possible.

Te is contact function, because It's a thinking function and it is extroverted, while ILI's have valued Fi (Feeling that is introverted) in their super-id block which is inert ethic function.

Out of topic, but so5 ILI INTJ is one of the most consistent typings so far on this site.

[Braingel]

Out of topic, but so5 ILI INTJ is one of the most consistent typings so far on this site.

I’m interested in your typing of forum members via scs or whatever system

[Muira]

I’m interested in your typing of forum members via scs or whatever system

I have many, I don't know where to start. But there is only so much I can judge upon without proper questionnaires from most people on this site.

[Ave]

Cocoa powder makes a great lunch.

Cocoa or coca?