Type me from video - v3 questionairre

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I quickly do get the gist of things then ... facts or no facts. I’m not building passenger planes so i dont need that safety.

I think, that ILE will end up being my competition rather than dual in the long run .. so identical makes sense from this pow.

But, I still ended up as an extrovert .

I didnt talk or message with anyone but my parents once a couple days since 10 days and i enjoy it. Well except here. But still...

Extravert means your energy supply is thinking on your feet, in other words you are right here and react, then think. Intro is reversed.
There is a dopamine supply in this type, it is called the sympathetic nervous system and it causes one to get energy this way, whether or not there is an ear to hear the blab. It means object, not subject oriented, btw.

The stereotype of being people people, being in this loop comes from this, because Extraverts are higher energy, they tell people their good fortunes, and thus look that way in this celebrated role, in the midst of a crowd.

So now you know, and study the type, and stick around so you can learn how other types are IRL.

Also find your Enneagram, because that will be more meaningful, but i think you are 7. Not sure on the wing.

[thistle]

When you say provocative things I feel you have an idea of the range of reactions to possibly expect and judge the appropriateness
Your Fi seems more flexible or savvy in that way, rather than a blindspot.

[loopyclouds]

IEE? I didn't get to see your video tho, so this is not a very well-founded guess.

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What will happen with PoLR Fi is you will know the reaction in people with Ne and Fe, but Ti wants things lined up its own way and will sort of influence the people- scape to form around Ti Truth.

In other words "this is it," and if the relationship can't form around this, then that is where it parts. I value these things happening first, and the relationship forms around it rather than the wanting the relationship for its own sake. It is sort of utilitarian. Your attraction to people is "what does it do, not who you are."

Not everyone falls into this cold approach, there will be a few close people. Baby Fi still works.

[idol]

What will happen with PoLR Fi is you will know the reaction in people with Ne and Fe, but Ti wants things lined up its own way and will sort of influence the people- scape to form around Ti Truth.

In other words "this is it," and if the relationship can't form around this, then that is where it parts. I value these things happening first, and the relationship forms around it rather than the wanting the relationship for its own sake. It is sort of utilitarian. Your attraction to people is "what does it do, not who you are."

Not everyone falls into this cold approach, there will be a few close people. Baby Fi still works.

I'm probably like this. Sometimes people feel like a burden to me, expecially when they complain to me about things and be in a bad mood most of the time. So it doesnt do anything for me, I increase the distance by ... not talking or communucating. When we were at school and at summer break, I wouldnt talk/message with my friends because I wouldnt be seeing them until 2-3 months anyway.

But yeah I have some ideas about what to expect when i say provocative things. In fact, one of things that made me move away from ENTp was this naivity of the type in social settings.

I'm set on ILE. Im definitely not socially retarded as filaytnovsko suggests but whatever its more fitting in key sentences than other types.

probably -ne subtype if that theory has any merit.

About enneagram, I think i'm 7 and my mom, dad and aunt (whom i forced to read Helem Palmer's book) agree. However, Self preservation type 2 is also very close by in Ichazo's system. The book have didnt much information about instinctual sub types.

[necrosebud]

You are throwing this stuff together Hodge podge.
Like i would. Not SEI, btw, not SLE.

ILE

your "hodge podge," from what I have seen, tend to be essence, ideas, abstractions, patterns - you move from one to another... his are entirely ideationally disconnected anecdotes. N vs. S imo

just looking at his text, I don't see evidence of N, for the above reason

had similar impression from the video, not to mention he seemed grounded or solid in himself, at least to me, which leans more towards S

[idol]

I dont see myself in air headedness of N types thats for sure. I'm the one who warns people about forgetting their belongings, where we parked the car etc.

I can upload the video again for people who didnt see it before, in a bit ..

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Let's try Apple, the word.

Write down anything that comes to mind with Apple.

How many ways can you see it being used. Anything goes.

And 7 words: scepter colonge spire intrigue love knight night.

Make a paragraph the best you can with these words that could make sense.

This is cultural biased and it might fail depending on your first language.

This is Ne essence test.

[idol]

Apple apple pie newton gravity coincidence .. i dont really know what spire and scepter means

that would be hard for me to pull off .. also doesnt seem exciting and/or sth i’d do .

[thistle]

After seeing your video and giving this more thought
I think any person can be outwardly "lazy" from the point of view of another person who doesn't see the full picture. Or a person can be lazy when there is something they are obviously putting off doing, and they may have good reason to avoid it...you just don't know from an outside point of view, unless they vocalise it.
Maybe some types are less likely to admit to laziness than others?

It sounds like you were bored and tired out by what your job involved, so you're now taking a break.
(sensing) types who are extroverted may spend up a lot of their energy on work and socialising and then know it's time for them to take a break - that they deserve, need a break.

I put sensing in brackets because I think sensing types have a greater awareness of when its time to stop and rest. EP types would be more erratic in their bursts of energy interspersed with rest.

[necrosebud]

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And 7 words: scepter colonge spire intrigue love knight night.

Make a paragraph the best you can with these words that could make sense.

This is cultural biased and it might fail depending on your first language.

This is Ne essence test.

I understand it is not directed at me i just thought it looked fun...

a cologne-wearing knight gifted his scepter out of love to an intrigued lady, with the castle spire as his witness, adorning the night sky.

that sounds so dumb lol

also sounds inappropriate now that I read it, but I didn't mean it that way at all

i know its not a paragraph but.. yeah

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I understand it is not directed at me i just thought it looked fun...

a cologne-wearing knight gifted his scepter out of love to an intrigued lady, with the castle spire as his witness, adorning the night sky.

that sounds so dumb lol

also sounds inappropriate now that I read it, but I didn't mean it that way at all

i know its not a paragraph but.. yeah

Awesome, you passed. Like I knew it. It's not dumb, it's Feeling adorable. Maybe hide it in spoiler so no cheating

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Apple apple pie newton gravity coincidence .. i dont really know what spire and scepter means

that would be hard for me to pull off .. also doesnt seem exciting and/or sth i’d do .

William Tell, Computer, Apple of my eye, looks like Mars, Adam and Eve, worm....

If this could go on like this, then:

I think you got the Ne, idol.

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Let's try Apple, the word.

Write down anything that comes to mind with Apple.

How many ways can you see it being used. Anything goes.

And 7 words: scepter cologne spire intrigue love knight night.

Make a paragraph the best you can with these words that could make sense.

This is cultural biased and it might fail depending on your first language.

This is Ne essence test.

In the world in an age different from now, there once was a scepter given in symbolism of royal power, knights in place of soldiers, a spire was high ground, and overall time seems to change, but we are constant in our desire, our love today is as always, we are so intrigued no matter where the time lay, in the night or in the dark, our essence is like cologne, it's very aromatic in the slips of time.

[idol]

After seeing your video and giving this more thought
I think any person can be outwardly "lazy" from the point of view of another person who doesn't see the full picture. Or a person can be lazy when there is something they are obviously putting off doing, and they may have good reason to avoid it...you just don't know from an outside point of view, unless they vocalise it.
Maybe some types are less likely to admit to laziness than others?

It sounds like you were bored and tired out by what your job involved, so you're now taking a break.
(sensing) types who are extroverted may spend up a lot of their energy on work and socialising and then know it's time for them to take a break - that they deserve, need a break.

I put sensing in brackets because I think sensing types have a greater awareness of when its time to stop and rest. EP types would be more erratic in their bursts of energy interspersed with rest.

I can see why you would think that ... Still i ve worked less than most my peers and have the least desire or ambition to. Considering last 10 years.

I’m definitely not Si Polr or Si ignoring thats for sure.

IEE? I didn't get to see your video tho, so this is not a very well-founded guess.

uploaded again

William Tell, Computer, Apple of my eye, looks like Mars, Adam and Eve, worm....

If this could go on like this, then:

I think you got the Ne, idol.

Yeah it can go like that ... i do have the Ne but where

[thistle]

Yeah it can go like that ... i do have the Ne but where

For what it's worth, the Ne essence test hurts my head and I give up pretty quickly.
When I think of apple I get: pie, knife, tree, green. There are not many leaps there, fewer than in your example.

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I can see why you would think that ... Still i ve worked less than most my peers and have the least desire or ambition to. Considering last 10 years.

I’m definitely not Si Polr or Si ignoring thats for sure.



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Yeah it can go like that ... i do have the Ne but where

Well by default i don't see SLE ego. In fact why you would feel SEI fit, that is something an ESTP wouldn't think normally on a mistype. So I think you might be in the introverted sensing zone and identify with that type. It is you reversed in functions.

Sensing types giving an answer to the Apple question, like my wife said: apple pie or tree or eat it. But you were quite divergent. That's Ne spreading out. Trans-contextual or across contexts, that is Ne strong.

It would have been interesting to see how everyone here would have answered that question in a thread.

I think you would get with Ni types: it might get rotten in a life cycle, or it symbolizes an ecosystem in life evolving in associations through time, we are like apples and fall, or it being a commercial product representing our efforts, but all in all convergent with it.

Si ignoring is saying, "i once did this thing, and i got hurt, but i'll do it again because my Se is pounding forward on my sojourn." Or, ignoring comfort in the quest for things in its ambition.

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Well by default i don't see SLE ego. In fact why you would feel SEI fit, that is something an ESTP wouldn't think normally on a mistype. So I think you might be in the introverted sensing zone and identify with that type. It is you reversed in functions.

Well i’d argue the same and even add that the reason SLI is in the question because of enTp is thwarted by si function, hence ISTp. If it was someone else.

I typed as ILE before. I guess its close enough. I’d like to hear if anyone has another option as well.
@thistle

do you think im SEE ? So far you think, not fi polr, better ne, possibly ExxP and a sensing type .

[nifl]

enTp is thwarted by si function

ILE is supported by Si, not thwarted, a term which is associated with inhibition and paralyzation
Si activity should increase motivation and give a more positive view of life for those who value it

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Idol, E7 explains your drive toward comfort, play is it's name. Its fear is discomfort.

[necrosebud]

After watching the video I actually kinda wondered about SEE, you don’t seem as ‘awkward’ with the F stuff even tho you mentioned you might not reach out to people, forget to respond to them or something like that - I don’t necessarily see that as contrary to Fi creative

might also align better with the fact that you typed SF

also your role Ne may be what’s making you seem Ne ego to some (?) I don’t think you are 1D Ne

[thistle]

do you think im SEE ? So far you think, not fi polr, better ne, possibly ExxP and a sensing type .

There are comments you have said here and there, the questionnaire and video, individual points that have added up to the impression I got.

Remarks such as "I'm not a masochist", even if said tongue in cheek, and your initiative in mentioning me in the member typing thread which felt like assertive Se use to me - if it were possible to discern Se use in a forum setting.

Maybe that ties in with your self description of wanting to include everyone by making a funny remark to break a silence. It can have a result of bringing in someone who's off to the side and otherwise not participating I can't claim much without seeing how this plays out with you in a real life social/work setting though.

Observing things such as someone's clothing and hand shake, voice tone and clothing and forming judgments based on this - I understand this as Se's evaluation of a person. In your case, the forming 2-3 judgements could possibly be Fi (especially if you experience an inner draw toward the person, or not).

I was wondering whether your relationship with Ne is as necrosebud alluded to, it's unvalued.
e.g. the following answer from your questionnaire, you said at first your impression is not good, you think "BS" and I wonder if it's related to looking for a standout unique viewpoint amongst many?

4. What do you think of people (or yourself) who distinctively stand out in a crowd, differ from others? What is a measure of such distinction, how can this difference be feasible and how not?
Well, I'm inclined to think about bad about those who stand out a lot, at first. Not to mean its good to follow the crowd always so they have my appreciation for that but more often than not; I see their efforts to differentiate themselves as BS. But they are stometimes reallly interesting people with unique personalities and wiews. I dunno how to measure it but I'd say that copying these stand-out people is not a real way to differ from others.

SEE can be drawn to commerce and trade, I think they are entrepreneurial in that way. Creative, artistic Ne also comes across in original answers or offbeat interests/hobbies.

Sol picked up on your comment about needing help with cleaning and tidying your home (I'm paraphrasing). It's a good point because I've noticed some ST rather handle their belongings themselves and SF maybe more inclined to clean/tidy after others to return things to a desired aesthetic.... well, at least I'm that way.
Perhaps your current personal situation is influenced by family dynamics, it's what you've grown up with so it's familiar to you.

SEEs are awesome at having a good time, by the way, and I can see E7 influence in your responses such as: "life's meaning is different for everyone", and "life is meaningful in itself".

Without interacting with you in person I don't have much confidence, I don't want to impress any particular type or idea - just hope the points help.

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The thing with Idol, is Fe is in his ego. Those highlights are qouted.

He's not SLE.

Nor F.

What's left?

He keeps looking for data and if it said he was a gorilla he would put that in the box. It's a very detached pov. Ti is a vacuous state of mind, empty of all inclinations, and it allows you entertain any pov without a bias lean.

SEE types force relationships, he sort of drifts in, mingles, entertains, leaves, and is unsure how he comes off. Like if there was a bond you would know it.

ESFPs close the distance or gap with ppl.

It's hot or cold.

IMO

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He keeps looking for data and if it said he was a gorilla he would put that in the box. It's a very detached pov. Ti is a vacuous state of mind, empty of all inclinations, and it allows you entertain any pov without a bias lean.

Thats sth I'd do, haha. I agree that I value/use Ti rather than Te/Fi.

Now, if someone would see a resemblance to a SEE from some of the stuff I've said, I can understand it but I'd argue this comes from me being an Creative subtype (with stronger Se/Ne). It also explains why I would be confused for ENTp.

Below, i will mark the sentences in bold for Si and Ne in 1st and 4th position which I identify with. It will also serve as an understanding why I'm typing at SEI. Because the valid points against it so far: I dont clean or cook/Sol and I seem to have better Ne, people vibe me as extrovert/more assertive, I'm not as nice as 4d Fi.

Si as Suggestive Function

The individual tends to be chronically unaware of his own bodily processes, including physiological sensations and a sense of balance and alignment with one's true desires. He sometimes has peculiar preferences or tastes, which he himself is unable to understand or fulfill. The individual almost never emphasizes his attractiveness or sexuality overtly and publicly, but dreams of being pleasing to the senses to at least a small circle of trusted friends and partners who are able to develop and enhance his sexuality and attractiveness in a trusting atmosphere.

With zero bolded sentences, Si suggestive is not really in question, I'm acutely aware of my body sensations, I even see myself above doctors I went to (I dont trust them, they listen you for 5 minutes and do tests to decide while, I experience it 24/7. With some knowledge about how body works, I'd better diagnose myself), I have a rather conversative taste in food and fashion but I'd fullfill it accordingly. The last sentence is just weird, in fact the opposite if anything.

Si as Leading Function

A strong ability to recognize internal physical states in themselves and others, to understand how these states are reached, and to recreate and avoid these physical states. Individuals who possess Si as a base function are drawn to situations that satisfy their inner physical experience. Whenever Si base function individuals are taking part in something that involves recognizing, recreating, or analyzing physical states, they feel a great deal of personal power and enthusiasm.The avoidance of discomfort is one of the primary motivations of these types. Feelings of internal discomfort can arise from a tense psychological atmosphere, working too hard and sapping the body's resources, being pressured by other people or by numerous "things to do," and from unsatiated or oversatiated physical needs. These types tend to quickly recognize and be quite vocal about discomfort that arises and either take clever measures to dissipate it or simply get out of whatever is bothering them. They are very receptive to other people sharing feelings of discomfort with them and can help alleviate the tension and offer good solutions.Si leading types are constantly adjusting themselves to their environment (which includes the people around them), and rarely have any fixed ideas about what is "appropriate" to desire in a given situation. Thus they are willing to accommodate other people's needs in an ad hoc manner. It is enough for something to "feel right" for them to justify doing it. This behavior may seem random to outside observers, since it is concomitant with weak Ni.

I think its good enough. Ne next

Ne as Suggestive Function

The individual has great respect and admiration for people who are always pursuing something new and different and are not tied down to material things. He easily becomes attached to people who believe in his potential and praise him for his unique skills. He rarely emphasizes his talents, unique experience, or singularity publicly, but prefers to seem like "your average guy" so that others can relate to him easily. However, he is more open about his unique attributes in close personal relationships. He is sensitive about his talents and uniqueness because so often uniqueness creates distance between people rather than closeness. He dreams of having his uniqueness recognized, welcomed, and fostered by a close group, but "just in case" avoids emphasizing his uniqueness and talents in new or large group situations. Since he finds it difficult to identify what unique talents he has, this often results in a tendency to avoid setting long-term career goals.

Compared to Si suggestive, I can definetely see how close it is.

Ne as Leading Function

The individual is skilled at generating intellectual interest and curiosity in others and using others' curiosity to get them to do things. He easily sees parallels between different situations, areas of knowledge or skill, and people, and likes to establish contacts across different fields of knowledge and social groups, which allows him to be part of many things at once. He enjoys considering differing viewpoints and perspectives and seeing if they can be reconciled. He enjoys the beginning stages of just about anything - new projects, acquiring new skills, experiencing new people and relationships. Preparing for and launching something new is seen as having greater value than the process of experiencing what one already has and finishing what one has begun. The concept of "finishing" seems foreign to him. Instead of taking care to finish things and tie up all loose ends, he tends to drop things when he can't handle them any longer or realize that he has neglected them for too long (this might be equally related to suggestive introverted sensing).

I may be over estimating myself in this one. However, most of the identified stuff seems also Enneagram 7 to me.

Moving on to 4d Fi, it was mentioned that I'm more aware of the impact my statements made. I agreed but wonder if its demonstrative function in works. I also tend to troll people with harsh ethical judgements (in a non-serious manner) when I feel they put too much value into it and made them too unflexible when we talk about random and weird things . When someone is too self rightous, I like to point at things that can easily be bad morals as well when looked from another point of view which they do.

8. Demonstrative Function

A person uses this element mainly as a kind of game, or to ridicule those who he thinks take it too seriously. They often intentionally go against its conventional usage simply to prove a point in favor of their creative function.

Also, this Te PolR description describes me "to a T". What ı wrote about doctors and my general writings on laziness...

• A type with Te PoLR tends to reject facts given from a source which they are personally unfamiliar with, firmly believing they can make their own decisions that are solely based on their own perspective and reasoning about it. They will tend to become defensive when questioned about their rationale or efficiency, pointing out that there is no such thing as objective "fact". Also, these types experience a significant level of stress in tending to day-to-day must do's and responsibilities in life (like routine maintenance or working productively), manifesting itself as a general laziness or hyper-diligence.

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Bro, you don't socialize like a SEI or SEE. For SEI: You don't emote like one. You don't detail like one. You're not careful like one.

You don't have Te PoLR. You see how things fit together with the facts, and inter-disperse facts with your facts and weave it together. You like facts, and work it from there.

My advice is you wont settle by picking parts of things from definitions and splice everything together.

I see Fi vulnerable.

You don't know enough about it, to work any conclusions, yet.

You once typed thistle SLI, because she likes fixing things, and SLI do that, because that's Te.

This will takes months.

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Tell me how you seek Si . As @nifl said suggestive Si should be more clear.

Thats the elephant in the room with Ne lead.

What im doing that throwing bunch of facts/personal stories wishing someone would make sense of it. Why not Ti seeking.

I have some theories and all but i lack the assurance to finalize it.

I’m okay with things taking time, we’ll see .

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Tell me how you seek Si . As @nifl said suggestive Si should be more clear.

Thats the elephant in the room with Ne lead.

What im doing that throwing bunch of facts/personal stories wishing someone would make sense of it. Why not Ti seeking.

I have some theories and all but i lack the assurance to finalize it.

I’m okay with things taking time, we’ll see .

I suppose it's through my SEI wife. It's relaxing, and it ties me down. I kind of always thought i'm in a program function of consciousness that has an ethereal vibe/quality to it. And i need to feel real, by looking away from essences, to what is real, what is here, what has fabric to it, and then i know i'm real by that.

That's how my psychology rolls out with desire.

Your "Ti seeking" is Si seeking for your facts to be grounded IMO.

Take a look at YouTube videos idol, on ISFJs, male ones, and you'll see you are not them.

Search ISFJ interviews or they might put up one up themselves and here in the US, that's MBTI Si Fe types.

You'll find shirt logos that say, LUV the world better, or something like that. lol.

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I suppose it's through my SEI wife. It's relaxing, and it ties me down. I kind of always thought i'm in a program function of consciousness that has an ethereal vibe/quality to it. And i need to feel real, by looking away from essences, to what is real, what is here, what has fabric to it, and then i know i'm real by that.

That's how my psychology rolls out with desire.

I really dont relate to that .. dont know what else to say.

ISFJ interviews... why not ? I dont see myself as tooootallly different.

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I really dont relate to that .. dont know what else to say.

ISFJ interviews... why not ? I dont see myself as tooootallly different.

Fair enough. I kind of felt we are the same, i just needed to coax out some things out. Maybe we are dual, or semi dual, because i sense we are hitting an interstice, but you are coming from the other way, and we are meeting somewhere in the middle.

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your "hodge podge," from what I have seen, tend to be essence, ideas, abstractions, patterns - you move from one to another... his are entirely ideationally disconnected anecdotes. N vs. S imo

just looking at his text, I don't see evidence of N, for the above reason

had similar impression from the video, not to mention he seemed grounded or solid in himself, at least to me, which leans more towards S

Accurate.

You are right again.

[Sol]

among against your current opinion as SLI

nick "idol" is much Fe. being about meaningful value for all, emotionally inspiring object for coping, objective emotional evaluation
Te types are the least who'd choose this as self-representation.

[idol]

among against your current opinion as SLI

nick "idol" is much Fe. being about meaningful value for all, emotionally inspiring object for coping, objective emotional evaluation
Te types are the least who'd choose this as self-representation.

Hey at least thats sth new.

What you offered was horrible with fact you advised E(N) to someone who barely speaks with anyone, have trouble with talking longer with others, usually called a loner and quiet, small circle of poeple known, low individual energy, prefers to play games all day or swim on his own.

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I think, I'm an ILI.

Probably, the reason I constantly get ISTP in MBTI, cos MBTI Ni is schizotypic, broken and romantisized to the point of weirdness.

Quadra values dont fit but dunno how realistic are those.

ITR dont really fit as well as, i heavily dislike SEE's but that was the same for IEE's anyway.

I read Reinin's type descriptions of types, what I gathered points to Ni types being the most chalemeon-like and Ip- Ni having the hardest time to type themselves.

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I think, I'm an ILI.

Probably, the reason I constantly get ISTP in MBTI, cos MBTI Ni is schizotypic, broken and romantisized to the point of weirdness.

Quadra values dont fit but dunno how realistic are those.

ITR dont really fit as well as, i heavily dislike SEE's but that was the same for IEE's anyway.

I read Reinin's type descriptions of types, what I gathered points to Ni types being the most chalemeon-like and Ip- Ni having the hardest time to type themselves.

LSI and those types conflict or supervise.

You seem to ignore Te in favor of whatever makes sense to you. You get mired in that all the time here.

That's Ti Dom thinking.

LSI are process types. You seem embedded in the process, and express sentiment toward that, being some Fi.

Try LSI and the 15 dichotomies.

I'm def. Result, Negativist Strategists and so on.

LSI types are one the hardest to self type according to forums info. It's a piece x piece building a tower of cards and the vista comes to view in a lot processing.

You def. are not intuitive.

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I play out scenarios in my head to understand how the situation is gonna develop. I'm thinking ahead of here and now, guessing the next step of anything.

I have quick understanding. I do lack in objective criteria. However, typology itself is very non Te. Unless you are gulenko and get 60$ for a typing.

I should be more extraverted than usual ILI. So not ignoring Ne as hard. Can understand why someone would think ILE instead.

Reinin gives ESI. I ignore them in typing for now.

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I play out scenarios in my head to understand how the situation is gonna develop. I'm thinking ahead of here and now, guessing the next step of anything.

I have quick understanding. I do lack in objective criteria. However, typology itself is very non Te. Unless you are gulenko and get 60$ for a typing.

I should be more extraverted than usual ILI. So not ignoring Ne as hard. Can understand why someone would think ILE instead.

Reinin gives ESI. I ignore them in typing for now.

Have you looked at LSI and their fortune cookie forecasts? Like guessing how every step is going to span across time? Leaving no ambiguity?

That information is here on the forum.

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Have you looked at LSI and their fortune cookie forecasts? Like guessing how every step is going to span across time? Leaving no ambiguity?

That information is here on the forum.

I'm kinda OK with ambiguity, more OK than LSI at least. Plus I dont have a moustache and couldnt grow one even if i wanted to. Didnt find fortune cookie thread though.

What caused change of heart was living my LSE aunt and observing SEI mum and IEE cousin and ILE husband. I find that i really dont care for their Si habits, enjoy food or eating, nor any interest in cooking for myself. They seem more effected by things wind, pillow, how they sit, tempature etc.

What is comfort to me is a state of zero responsibilities so I have all the TIME for myself.

An SLI or LSI would enjoy games but Ni imagining himself as Guardiola and playing Football Manager for hours, again and again with different imagined scenerios is more ILI. Or several other adventure games, I get into things and imagine myself as some character.

I do this IRL as well, prolly why I come across as different in different settings.

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I'm kinda OK with ambiguity, more OK than LSI at least. Plus I dont have a moustache and couldnt grow one even if i wanted to. Didnt find fortune cookie thread though.

What caused change of heart was living my LSE aunt and observing SEI mum and IEE cousin and ILE husband. I find that i really dont care for their Si habits, enjoy food or eating, nor any interest in cooking for myself. They seem more effected by things wind, pillow, how they sit, tempature etc.

What is comfort to me is a state of zero responsibilities so I have all the TIME for myself.

An SLI or LSI would enjoy games but Ni imagining himself as Guardiola and playing Football Manager for hours, again and again with different imagined scenerios is more ILI. Or several other adventure games, I get into things and imagine myself as some character.

I do this IRL as well, prolly why I come across as different in different settings.

Yeah that lines up quite well, practical is last, and least.

You never seemed IJ, and I always had a strong side saying you were always T. The usual egocentric side of T stared plainly out.

Like the person is the center, and everyone is secondary in view. Especially that is seen in introversion.

Sounds like you found your type

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• "I see flashes of instantaneous understanding of the cause and effect of every possible action I could take at that very moment, and I choose extremely quickly which one is the best choice." - ISTj, 16T member
• "There is like a flowchart in my mind. Every single possible if-then statement is recorded and stored in my brain and I have an amazing memory for it. My plans for the future can be written in C++ format if I wanted. (if I get this job, I will stay for 6 months. Else I will find a new job & work on my real estate liscence simultaneously). When I was younger, interacting with women was a huge flowchart because I had no emotional intelligence (its debatable if I still do). I would make a complete flowchart in my mind so I could control the interaction and know exactly how she was going to react so I wouldn't get my feelings hurt. For example, I would plan an entire interaction in my mind, "I'm going to say "hi, how are you?" her possible responses will be: nothing, something non-commital, and something engaging. If she says nothing, I will try again and stop pursuing if she doesn't. If she says somethig non-committal I'll leave. If she says something engaging, I will start these topics of conversation with her: X, Y, Z." - ISTj, 16T member
• "I think here lies the problem with the system. There has been no consistent principle put forth in the past five years, of how the system actually works. Frankly I thought Socionics was a good theory until baseless arguments begin on how the system works." - ISTj poster
• "This is why socionics is so confusing. for some people it means one thing, for another something else. there needs to be a set description with no chance for uncertainty" - ISTj poster
  [From my observations, people with C-D style of thinking seem to experience the most issues and troubles with getting into Socionics, perhaps because some of basic axioms of socionics have never been clearly formulated. The high levels of ambiguity embedded into Socionics present a challenge to C-D thinkers. Gulenko has also commented that Socionics is easier to grasp for Result types (V-S and H-P types).]

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...Victor-Gulenko

This is the Ni agenda energy i referenced. I'm just posting it so someone might benefit from it.

N/A non applicable but applicable.

There's more on Reddit too. It all tells the same story line.

You can kinda get the gist how Ne would be choked, or because Ne is choked you resort to this. Chicken/egg; egg/chicken.

Socionics states it happens behind the scenes so you are not an agent via implication. Your chicken is choked.

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I've introduced Socionics to some people at my new workplace, they seem to think I'm SLI or ILE howeverrr, my most recent decision on type: LIE-Ni

Talanov test result supports this. Close enough to ILE/SLI.