Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[The Reality Denialist]

Does ESE or LSE seem possible in your opinion?

I think she is very logically minded and quite parsing (Ti) oriented towards real factual working of things (Te) in the middle of power oriented games (Se). SLE.

[Aramas]

ILE-Ne soc-9w8, @vesstheastralsilky knows her duals ^^

She does come off as being a little immature and her proposals seem too unfettered.



She has also reminded me of this ILE-Ne girl:





Hm she was posted up for enneagram discussion at another typology forum and several members have noticed is that she seems manic, and that this could interfere with any attempts to type her.



This is probably where you get the dancing on rooftops mentioned in this video. Mania is the abnormally heightened phase of bipolar personality disorder, or in russian - Биполярное аффективное расстройство

Props to silke for knowing Socionics.

It's funny to think of AOC as immature. Remember who the president of the USA is. Remember that he was elected.

[Aramas]

I think she is very logically minded and quite parsing (Ti) oriented towards real factual working of things (Te) in the middle of power oriented games (Se). SLE.

She can hold her own in an Se environment, but be careful not to confuse Role and Dominant.

[The Reality Denialist]

She can hold her own in an Se environment, but be careful not to confuse Role and Dominant.

But the whole process of the her life is getting up there is not just defending own position. So possible IEE? ILE's would mask themselves as trump-eseque (SEE) like creating some sort of imaginary obstacle.

[Aramas]

But the whole process of the her life is getting up there is not just defending own position. So possible IEE? ILE's would mask themselves as trump-eseque (SEE) like creating some sort of imaginary obstacle.

Are you drunk?

[The Reality Denialist]

Are you drunk?

Never been. That is too common place behavior and I'm not into those sort of things.

[Raver]

She's ILE.

I initially typed her as either IEE or SEE so it is interesting to see her typed as ILE and SLE. I just don't see creative or demonstrative personally. Maybe I am missing her using and she avoids using because she doesn't value it at her own detriment.

I can buy ILE way more than SLE anyways as I felt I shared some similarities with her, but there were some differences too so ILE could explain it. SLE seems too far fetched for her judging by her general behavior. She doesn't resemble any SLEs I know, even the females.

[WinnieW]

I'd say we can exclude delta ST and gamma NT as type for her because she doesn't value .
is her extraverted judgement function.

[Raver]

I'd say we can exclude delta ST and gamma NT as type for her because she doesn't value .
is her extraverted judgement function.

Yup, this video pretty much demonstrates her unvalued and/or weak

[Aramas]

I initially typed her as either IEE or SEE so it is interesting to see her typed as ILE and SLE. I just don't see creative or demonstrative personally. Maybe I am missing her using and she avoids using because she doesn't value it at her own detriment.

I can buy ILE way more than SLE anyways as I felt I shared some similarities with her, but there were some differences too so ILE could explain it. SLE seems too far fetched for her judging by her general behavior. She doesn't resemble any SLEs I know, even the females.

Some thinkers are not great thinkers, and some thinkers are better with people than feelers. Huh.

[Raver]

Some thinkers are not great thinkers, and some thinkers are better with people than feelers. Huh.

That's true, Socionics doesn't explain other factors that can influence behavior and personality. However, I just haven't seen the evidence for creative and PoLR yet, but base and HA makes sense based on what I've seen from her so I'll acknowledge Ne-ILE as a possibility for her type.

[WinnieW]

Hmm. The thing is ILE have 4D , which isn't weak, it's just an unvalued function for alpha NT.

[The Reality Denialist]

So places importance in actions and life of people, likes to play with factual figures that seem to be hit or miss, fails at construction of possible constituents while convinces people of her own convictions. We all know what that means.

[PussyInASarcophagus]

Props to silke for knowing Socionics.

It's funny to think of AOC as immature. Remember who the president of the USA is. Remember that he was elected.

Trump isn't infantile enough to actually think socialism would work. Nice try though

[PussyInASarcophagus]

She can hold her own in an Se environment, but be careful not to confuse Role and Dominant.

She wouldn't stand a chance in the streets. And please don't bring her fake ass background.

[Aramas]

She wouldn't stand a chance in the streets. And please don't bring her fake ass background.

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I literally can't even.

[velveteen]

The consensus seems to be ENFj. Which seems plausible, from her speeches she does strike me as a Fe-dom.

THOUGHTS? I friggin' love her (subjective opinion ).

[Raver]

The consensus seems to be ENFj. Which seems plausible, from her speeches she does strike me as a Fe-dom.

THOUGHTS? I friggin' love her (subjective opinion ).

I already made a thread about her here:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Ocasio-Cortez

[velveteen]

I guess I didn't search as thoroughly as I thought. Cheers @Raver!

[perpetuus]

I'm enjoying CSpan clips of her. It's unintentional comedy gold.

[Grendel]

Social democrats would be wise to wage open war against the Federal Reserve instead of just nicking the symptoms individually and making all of them worse, tbh.



also QUAD DIGITS GET!

[Kill4Me]

I pegged her type before anybody.

Cortez is ESE-Si 2w3 sp/so

I cracked the VI for every socionics type on this pinterest. Note that its a clear VI match for ESE-Si:

https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/ese-si/

I cracked the gestalt for each type, wing and stack. Note that it's a clear match for the the insatiable-seductive gestalt: 2w3.

https://stackemup.livejournal.com/

I cracked the VI for every stacking. Note that its a clear VI match for sp/so (though I need to put more sp/so exxamples up there):

https://www.pinterest.com/stackemupennea/

That brings me to 2w3 sp/so. Fictional counterpart: Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz.

Everything else you need to know about enneagram types is here:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ype-Wing-Stack

Oh and by the way, I had the lion's head avatar before anybody on any forum.

[khcs]

I pegged her type before anybody.

Cortez is ESE-Si 2w3 sp/so

I cracked the VI for every socionics type on this pinterest. Note that its a clear VI match for ESE-Si:

https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/ese-si/

I cracked the gestalt for each type, wing and stack. Note that it's a clear match for the the insatiable-seductive gestalt: 2w3.

https://stackemup.livejournal.com/

I cracked the VI for every stacking. Note that its a clear VI match for sp/so (though I need to put more sp/so exxamples up there):

https://www.pinterest.com/stackemupennea/

That brings me to 2w3 sp/so. Fictional counterpart: Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz.

Everything else you need to know about enneagram types is here:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ype-Wing-Stack

Oh and by the way, I had the lion's head avatar before anybody on any forum.

[MrsTortilla]

Hardcore EIE!

[MrsTortilla]

I want to add:

From Wikipedia
”
Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007.^[21] She came in second in the Microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematodeC. elegans.^[22] In a show of appreciation for her efforts, the MIT Lincoln Laboratory named a small asteroid after her.
”
Not saying it’s impossible but that doesn’t sound like any ESE I have ever known.

[khcs]

Hardcore EIE!

[MrsTortilla]

You are aware this just got less funny?

[khcs]

You are aware this just got less funny?

[MrsTortilla]

Haha yes that is adorable. But no, I don’t need comforting. The other thing just got less funny because you’d used it already, not because it was used on me. ;-)

[ragnar]

I initially typed her as either IEE or SEE.

I get those vibes too, my current bet is on SEE.

[Raver]

Her green new deal just got rejected: https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/h...6hres109ih.pdf

After you read it, it's difficult to tell whether she has dreadful , doesn't value it at all or both. Her ideas sound great in theory, but anyone with a modicum of knowledge of economics will know that it won't work well in practice.

[khcs]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - The same type as Ilhan Omar

[EUDAEMONIUM]

I agree with most of this post. She does not value much logic in her arguments and her green new deal lacks Te, she does seem to be a beta NF to me. But my second guess would be ESE. Even though I don't agree with her I can't help but find her adorable.

[khcs]

Another Cortez-clone in politics. Sawsan Chebli

[Quez]

EIE.

[The Reality Denialist]

EIE might work. Does not really push ideology in present moment but track record shows something else happening in mean time. Could be Ne demonstrative.

[thegreenfaerie]

Dude in video is annoying.

ILE-Ne soc-9w8, @vesstheastralsilky knows her duals ^^

She does come off as being a little immature and her proposals seem too unfettered.



She has also reminded me of this ILE-Ne girl:





Hm she was posted up for enneagram discussion at another typology forum and several members have noticed is that she seems manic, and that this could interfere with any attempts to type her.



This is probably where you get the dancing on rooftops mentioned in this video. Mania is the abnormally heightened phase of bipolar personality disorder, or in russian - Биполярное аффективное расстройство

[andreasdevig]

If you don't love America, then why don't you just LEAVE!!!!!!

I'm guessing he also thinks if someone can't afford health care or a house, we should just let them remain sick and homeless. I guess we can't afford otherwise.

What exactly does he think the money should get spent on, if not helping the most vulnerable in society? What can be more important than that?

[Marep]

EIE, creative subtype

[thegreenfaerie]

We should spend it on more gyms for he and his bros. Maybe some PUA endorsements

If you don't love America, then why don't you just LEAVE!!!!!!

I'm guessing he also thinks if someone can't afford health care or a house, we should just let them remain sick and homeless. I guess we can't afford otherwise.

What exactly does he think the money should get spent on, if not helping the most vulnerable in society? What can be more important than that?