Yeah, it's jungs introverted feeling.
Yeah, it's jungs introverted feeling.
Who said I was taking it seriously?Originally Posted by Olimpia
Yeah, you take this thread too seriously.
If you don't like it, you don't have to follow it.
This is basically a version of "Olimpia's Brain", so.
Nah he's LII, said it himself. Unless you think your the master of minds and can get in everyone's head.
If she disagrees with this she's a butthurt esi. Calling it now.
Just because someone says they are a certain type, does not mean they are right.
And yes, even Jung might have been mistyping. Though in his defense, the types as they exist now, did not exist back then. So... I find it to be a mute point to some extent.
Anyhow, he was in a continual "Ni-Ti loop", which is quite common for Inert subtype people. (Being in a "loop" of their Lead and HA functions, that is.) So he "saw" Ni and Ti in himself, when he introspected. Which is not incorrect technically. It is not the whole story, however. And just look at his work, as a whole. It is IEI-Ni af. If you cannot recognize the Ni valuing of it, then... we have different takes on Ni.
SNATCHED BY NI!!!
what was Jung doing writing in such a convoluted way, he should have just posted a video
what's Olimpia's recommendations for the dummies who come from MBTI?
Try to forget everything you've ever known about MBTI when you study Model A.
But then later, don't make the mistake and think that the types are totally different from one another.
I've written about that issue before here.
Ok, what about a wing? 3w4 or 5w4?
The main difference between you and Jung. You are only in a temporary Ni-Ti loop while posting here in this thread.
In that way you seem more NT like in your expression.
Unsure, actually. I am leaning towards no, but I cannot say for sure.
Jung was pretty much in his Ni-Ti loop when he wrote about the "psychological types", imo. He could pass as a fake NT. Otherwise the typings of him being LII wouldn't be so persistent.
Every NT type does have a heart fix. What heart type can a NT type have?
2 as heart type for NT seems as strange as 4. 3 would be the only remaining option. 3 no wing, 3 both wings, 3w2, 3w4
For all Logical types, 3 is by far the most common Heart fix.
ILIs can have a 4 fix.
I am open to the idea of ExTj possibly having a 2 fix.
That's mostly it.
Yeeeeeah you go girl
Alright so would you disagree with Christians about God, but still consider yourself Christian? What about Muslim & Allah? Doesn't matter what it is, he created this and disagreeing with him would remove the whole point from the story. If you want to create your own typological system, go ahead, but don't consider it anywhere close to Jungian.
Does being emotional sensitve imply thatis one of my weaker or stronger functions?
Does make sense for me.
suuuup.....
This thread is Te PoLR.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
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What system of sorting people to match a system of abstract descriptions is-valuing at all?
Any theory that lacks falsifiability has evidently no connection to reality. Science is about theories that are testable.
reality is more than what is scientifically falsifiable, they could relate it to phenomenological experience that is "real" primarily in the form of sensing or intuition... Te types care primarily about what works, not about why Ti says it works
I won't contradict you in this case, Bertrand.
My point is about using scientific methods, otherwise all we do is just educated guessing. Personally I'm comfortable with that.
Hmhm hm....
my mind seems to be stumbling...
OHwait! My socionics classes might come in handy this time... lemme see here ... shifts glasses up my nose shaft as a formality of showing intense focus and begins flipping through pages of a mysterious textbook with a picture of a weird androgynous looking robot thing, almost as if this is something someone would fap to if they were IEI 4s
AHHHH yes! I learned this years ago, silly me!
Originally written by Headmaster Olimpiadore
The amount of butthurt is highly proportional to the amount of (valued) Fi someone possesses.
Actually, many gay guys are Fi ego...
IT IS ALL CLEAR NOW
stfu
LOL
When a chick is obsessed with horses, there's a very high chance she is Gamma SF, especially SEE.
Lmao
Socionics is built around a theoretical structure and is pretty unrelated to empiricism except insofar as each individual sees it for themselves, but everybody sees it differently lol. It's more of a Ti thing.
he never said it wasnt mate.
Ok then
I still think Winnie is right, even if some Te types find value in it.
I don't insist on being right, but I think it is a good idea to put this up for debate.
I feel like I'd just be repeating myself to go into this, suffice to say socionics is founded primarily on an intuition that seeks to link logic and ethics and is not given form primarily by Ti nor Te, but rather rationality, with types of all kinds contributing to it accordingly by their preference, treating it in kind, and appreciating it (ethics included, i.e.: strat). to say its one or the other is to project and privilege ones own preferred understanding, and in some ways miss the point, treat it like some kind of simple sets of if-then formulas where they can plug people in and derive set results which is a very superficial understanding and precisely what people in this very thread criticize olimpia for (i.e. an over simplification)
How many gay men do you actually know olimpia because I can guarantee I know way more and from what I've seen its pretty much all over the map.
When IEI decides something sample size is usually 1<n<5.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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I see it that way:
Ti is about defining a theory
Te is about applying a theory
@Bertrand I'm supposing that even before empiricism was formalized as a concept there was still some general sense of operating under parameters that were generally observable and demonstrable. a single individual can find that it "works" to howl at the moon every third Wednesday for good luck, and try to bring others around to applying this practice because they find it useful, but unless they could show their work, so to speak, I'm hard pressed to consider this Te.
"New Age" (spirituality) people are mostly IEI, ESI, or SEE and So blindspot (particularly Sx/Sp) and 6+9 fix.
Have fun distinguishing which is which.
Astrology affects and is loved by a similar crowd. Just add some Beta STs and INTx individuals to the mix.
Least likely type to believe in any of this: LSE Sp/So.
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