When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin.
The Metamorphosis, Kafka line 1.
When Gregor Samsa woke up one morning from unsettling dreams, he found himself changed in his bed into a monstrous vermin.
The Metamorphosis, Kafka line 1.
A really bad hair day.Originally Posted by Guillaine
*E4 intensifies*
[Today 07:57 AM] Raver: Life is a ride that lasts very long, but still a ride. It is a dream that we have yet to awaken from.
It's hard to find a love through every shade of grey.
4w3 sx/sp
Last edited by lynn; 09-21-2019 at 11:18 PM.
i have been thinking about what being a four is for me and about deprivation and how a lot of my issues revolve around it and it is caught up with being a four and always longing for things, pushing them away (depriving myself) then attaching to the emptiness and longing (deprivation). I am trying to work on not doing this and the more I try the more I see how effectively I do it. I came across this article, which rang true. of course the shame is related as the deprivation prbably started with my parents and the shame I felt from wanting love was their projection becasue they were not capable of being vulnerable, couldn't be bothered or as a means f control so then I attach to the shame, their shame. So to escape it I am trying to embrace my needs as valid.
https://tinybuddha.com/blog/9-ways-y...d-fulfillment/
Last edited by Guillaine; 08-22-2018 at 09:50 AM.
"I take back like half of the exclamation points.....they make me look....eager to please. Which I AM....but I don't want anyone to KNOW that"
- Carrie Fisher
4w5
type 4 music Kreygasm
I never cared for dogs, they smell bad no matter what you do to them... lol...
I mean seriously.. wet dog or generic poop smell or pee in the alleyway? wet dog is like 1.3x as bad
Last edited by khullencher; 10-21-2018 at 03:55 AM. Reason: bepis
>.< The low level pain is just a backdrop to life.
If you think about it, all of the enneagram types are picking up on something "real." So there's no real reason to not propel yourself through life noticing what's "missing." It's not good to overdo it, to treat yourself or others with contempt, to downgrades things that might be good. But some other types sort of gloss over the cracks, the suffering and the wrongdoings. Seeing the broken and finding redemptive beauty in it can be taken to an extreme, for sure (like amping up your emotions all the time when nothing that bad is happening...), but just as a thread you notice sometimes, when you are walking down the street or in your room, when you talk to someone or when you read the news...when you try to fix something and just can't, it's just a slight thread of pain that runs through everything. It is not the only aspect of living but it is always there. Feels like a sort of "openness" to me, sometimes. Maybe compassion. >.<
"The Death of Chatterton"
(Thomas Chatterton: IEI-Ni 4w3 sx/sp?)
4w5
Last edited by lynn; 09-21-2019 at 11:21 PM.
I am the rare and fabulous ILI-Te 4w3/5
God help you all.
But seriously, I hate being a 4 and its made typing myself a nightmare. I had a good expert friend of mine type me extensively and in detail. So I do not doubt I am a 4, and its complimented well with 8&5 in my tritype. The darkest triad, and the seeming walking contradiction. It makes 100% sense to me though.
I felt some disgust when I realized I was an sx 4... because everyone else on the internet types themselves as sx 4.I am the rare and fabulous ILI-Te 4w3/5
God help you all.
But seriously, I hate being a 4 and its made typing myself a nightmare. I had a good expert friend of mine type me extensively and in detail. So I do not doubt I am a 4, and its complimented well with 8&5 in my tritype. The darkest triad, and the seeming walking contradiction. It makes 100% sense to me though.
I thought I was sp/sx but intensity isnt just an sx thing. Its a 4 thing, and I lacked the other factors of sx that are kinda important. So sp/so for me.
I get a lot of shit for being a 4, but since I am self aware. That 4 behavior is tempered withing me and channeled into artistic pursuits and psychological analysis of others. So don't feel too bad. Any facet is useful, but you have to learn how.
Now THIS is 4 music:
4 so/sx
If I had to think of a society whose values most matched with sx 4 it would probably be the Aztecs.
Death, blood, violence, etc. are common obsessions of sx 4s, so it would make the most sense that the society based around ritualized violence would be the most sx 4.
Pierre XO — Social 4w3 68
hes not a 4. 3w4 probably. he obviously thinks hes above everyone in how he comes across. hes so gross. not saying 3s are gross but he is. gives me a really weird vibe
he wants the shine of being different and unique, its not like he is ashamed of being flawed and weird like a 4 is. hes very normal actually lol
More likely the French. That sounds more like an 8 or 1 culture.
He reminds me of Jeffree Star. Why not 3w4?
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
makes too much of an effort being idiosyncratic and whining about it, self-indulgence/self-absorbed. 4 as the individualist or bohemian sums it up very well. 3 conforms and strives to excel a lot more, feels above and not below. jeffree is pretty close (368 tritype, ethical extravert), yet pierre isn't exactly the "ugh can't relatelook at my posessions" guy. it's different quadra values as well playing into it, star is all about that
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Ah yeah, I can see what you mean. I just couldn’t help but notice their similarities - though hearing this from an actual 3, I do believe you. 3w4 vs. 4w3 has always been a huge debate in general, I’ve noticed online.makes too much of an effort being idiosyncratic and whining about it, self-indulgence/self-absorbed. 4 as the individualist or bohemian sums it up very well. 3 conforms and strives to excel a lot more, feels above and not below. jeffree is pretty close (368 tritype, ethical extravert), yet pierre isn't exactly the "ugh can't relate
Cool hearin’ from you again tho, kiddo. (I know I’m younger than you, just roll with it)
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
He's a 4w3 too.makes too much of an effort being idiosyncratic and whining about it, self-indulgence/self-absorbed. 4 as the individualist or bohemian sums it up very well. 3 conforms and strives to excel a lot more, feels above and not below. jeffree is pretty close (368 tritype, ethical extravert), yet pierre isn't exactly the "ugh can't relate
4w3
social 4w3
4w5
sp 4w5 af tbh
all of his lyrics are textbook 4 to a humorous degree... as for Moz himself, I believe he is EIE 4w3 so/sp. 461 probably.
"Others conquered love - but I ran
I sat in my room and I drew up a plan
but plans can fall through as so often they do
and time is against me now"
"I wear black on the outside
'Cause black is how I feel on the inside
And if I seem a little strange
Well, that's because I am
But I know that you would like me
If only you could see me"
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