ENFj sex
I'm really curious after reading the Si-polr ENFj thread, and their discomfort with naked bodies and functions or whatever.
What's it like?? Do you really want an LSI to tie you up and beat you? Or is that a totally misdirected stereotype that's meant only for deltas?
tied up beatings was very popular pasttime amongst the alphas i befriended last summer.
one LSI-Se I've been with was quite the opposite : he wasn't into tying ppl up; he acted aggressive and stuff more on a social level. Sexually he definitely had expectations for a dominatrix. I couldn't really squeeze socionics in there to be honest ...cause that's not my picture of EIE. But I've often heard Beta Rationals are into bdsm...Originally Posted by blood moon
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OK, but I'm interested in the EIE POV... personally my experiences with agressors has not been anything close to bdsm, and I'm leaning more towards the idea that it's Fi and delta that likes structured role playing and its attribution to beta rationals is totally wrong. BUT without hearing from EIE I might have only half the picture.
Plus I've had experiences like these with EIEs ~
i liked ur post for the tmi but just ftr i cant vouch for Fi being into that.
i can't speak to what Si polrs are like in bed but if squeamishness or self consciousness are the norm thats uncomfortable to me. but i don't get that impression from what entjs on the forum have said. the isfj i dated had a vibe like the estp you mentioned but i don't. but i think he watched a lot of porn.
LOL This thread is wonderful.
I don't believe I've ever said the words 'I like blow jobs.'
However in regards to BDSM.
Yes. It happens. Though I'm not sure that is type related.
so which side of the fence are u
Switch. With natural dominant tendencies.
It depends however on the dynamic. I've found myself in submissive roles.
BDSM doesn't start and stop at 'beating the shit' out of somebody. It can be a long and slow courtship dance of mental fortitude and aggression; posturing. Manipulation, cornering, and taking control of the other person.
When it is done healthily is can be incredibly sensual and fulfilling.
What is it with personality forums and BDSM?
'Cos people with BDSM tendencies have personalities, those who do not have them are personality-less.
As an EIE, I was extremely uncomfortable being naked for many many years. I don't know if it is type related, or being raised in an extreme christian fundamentalist family or both. It wasn't until I had enough experience (quite a few years) and genuine positive feedback before I became comfortable with being naked. Now I"m not a nudist or anything, but I have no issues with being naked or being seen naked.
As for the "victim" mentality in terms of relationships and BDSM, I don't have a simple answer. I definitely find myself most stimulated by a strong resilient partner who can provide a sense of back and forth in terms of power and control. I was in a relationship with someone with which we did play around with BDSM a little bit (She was INFp), but she was completely submissive and it wasn't fulfilling for me. I am drawn to someone whose submission I earn, and who can earn it from me. I don't know if that makes sense, it's like playing a competitive board game. If your opponent is terrible it's usually a boring game. I lost desire to play around with BDSM with her, but found I still had occasional BDSM fantasies involving an LSI.
I don't mean to cast relationships or sex into a form of competition, I don't want to give the wrong idea, but like dancing- somebody has to lead.
Hope that helps...
ENFjs are troopers. They will do what must be done without regard to their physical heath.
You're a chick though... right?
That's true.ENFjs are troopers. They will do what must be done without regard to their physical heath.
And they can be very sweet and devoted to your pleasure in a victim-victim relationship.
BUT they sometimes really need a sensor to smack them up the head and make them realize that whatever they are so tense about and allowing to dictate their behavior is totally unimportant. Applies to LIE too.
i.e just because YOU're uncomfortable with your body doesn't mean you have to crack down on everyone who is comfortable with their sexuality and make it a moral thing. EIEs have the charisma to influence other people on these matters, but not the logic.
I say this out of having a lot EIE elders in my family cracking down on the younger generation.
Holy fuck my spleen the irony is to good and the fact you asked i wish you had your own comedy show 10/10 would watch
lol?
Yes, though I dislike oral in general.
i wouldn't have said it better myself!
Are EIEs supposed to be shocked by sexuality and private parts?
I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.
Those are not exactly epitomes of beauty. I think the general theory goes that humans find it usually quite appalling, but succumb to primal biological desires. Weapons of mass destruction.
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ive had intrusive urges (i didnt even feel liek they were mine like as if "i want this" no it was more like its just on its own and it happens to me) bc my brain was collapsing but at that point i didnt even have enough awareness to be like "dominant" in an emotional way like it was more irrational pointless than that, and i was aware of that but it was like when more posessed it slipping away. i also thought everyone who liked it was traumatised and mentally ill and they wouldnt like it if they werent. now ig i think its not necessarily like that, but you know if someone's mesesd up u amy not know so i'd advice peopel to be emotionally aware when to stop cuz i read stories of ppl who cried when someone would refuse to do it bc "someone finally respects me" while others would get upsete for him being too lame and weak ofc this can be a matter of mutual understanding and synchonization, point is theres many toxic people who will abuse that some women like it to project it on everyone while also getting upset that the woman said she likes it when she actually doesnt and instead of comforting her he gets offended and calls her a manipulator or some men just wanna rape anyway and think its always good cuz they are ill. and just bc she thinks ur lame for not doing it doesnt mean all the times she leans into getting hurt (beyond the bdsm/wanting to get hit in the head) is something she actually wants, it can be complicated. cuz blows to the head cause brain damage right so dont do it if u have any sense.
no discomfort with naked bodies for me bc i was concerned about things like some ppl get kidnapped and or just raped hurt abused whatever and run away naked, and knowing how i feel about being judged, on top of it, imagine someone wants to run away but decides not to bc they are too emabrassed and dont want ppl to see their bodies outside and judge them. even being surprised in a judgy way is kinda bad. like some ppl think just bc t yhyey are surprised they have to throw the emotion on u and make u indulge in it, and ur an asshole if u just act cold. cuz if u go outside and ure naked and ur face is cold, ppl think you're just an asshole who does this to make others uncomfortable. like yes thanks hate me for trying to retain emotional stability. which in turn can make me to actually go outside naked for no reason but to upset ppl bc i know someone else cant bc they'll be upset when they really need to. then i have issues with clothes restricting movement and causing tension and maybe even damage, and the fact most ppl dont get enough vitamin D, then u get reproductive issues bc of microplastics or even other reasons and ppl argue u have to have ur genitals catch sun to be healthy lol.
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As a Beta NF I can only speak about my own experience but I have rare waves of sexual desire that do not make me engage in sexual activity with other people. I've been disgusted with sex for a long time and find it to be an awkward topic to discuss with other people because they like to talk about what they're into when I'm not comfortably into anyone at all.
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definitely self-conscious about his privates. 
