Fi as love

[Dioklecian]

Its' an illusion, Fi people don't really love you, they make you feel as if they do.

[anndelise]

Its' an illusion, Fi people don't really love you, they make you feel as if they do.

we can't "make" you feel anything....

though feelings can be influenced, influencing is not the same as making

[Dioklecian]

What I mean is "make believe"

Especially some peoples' Fi as second functions seems to be very flimsy, judging from my traumatic expericnes with ESFPs.

[Joy]

tank boy, you are prolly the most delusional person I've ever not met. when I complain about people being helpless, it's this kind of stuff I'm refering to. guess what... you don't HAVE to be a victim of life. I once knew this guy who swore that NO ONE in the WHOLE WORLD had it as bad as he did... because he mom was emotionally abusive and he was ugly and depressed and I don't even know what else. I so wanted to choke him. you're reminding me of that guy right now.

do you live in a third world country? do you have an IQ above 60? do you have use of at least one of your limbs? if so... then life is what you make it.

[Dioklecian]

Joy have we met?

[Dioklecian]

Dioklecian: Unplug your keyboard.

Thanks in advance.

Um, care to explain?

[Joy]

you're not the guy I know, but you actually kinda look like a much more attractive version of him.

[Dioklecian]

Well what does Fi mean in practical terms? How long does it last? If you loved me today and tomorrow and so on for a year and a half, and I come to you after 5 years and say: hey I was in deep shit then but I really loved you, what would you say?

Ups, what are you talking about? I don't remember liking you at all, sorry....

[Kim]

What I mean is "make believe"

Especially some peoples' Fi as second functions seems to be very flimsy, judging from my traumatic expericnes with ESFPs.

Please explain my flimsy second function to me. I'm all curious now.

[Dioklecian]

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[Kim]

So where do you see flimsy Fi now?

[anndelise]

Well what does Fi mean in practical terms? How long does it last? If you loved me today and tomorrow and so on for a year and a half, and I come to you after 5 years and say: hey I was in deep shit then but I really loved you, what would you say?

Ups, what are you talking about? I don't remember liking you at all, sorry....

OMFG...you are still stuck on this SH**???????

Dude, get the F*** over it. This falls under what i said earlier about trying to push YOUR reality onto others and expecting THEM to follow through with it!!!!

[Dioklecian]

Well you guys say that Fi is love: what KIND of love is it when people simply and completely FORGET YOU! Fe people at least don't FORGET this kind of thing.

[Dioklecian]

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[anndelise]

Well you guys say that Fi is love: what KIND of love is it when people simply and completely FORGET YOU! Fe people at least don't FORGET this kind of thing.

which infj, isfj, enfp, or esfp has actually stated that "Fi is love"???

[Dioklecian]

What I mean is "make believe"

Especially some peoples' Fi as second functions seems to be very flimsy, judging from my traumatic expericnes with ESFPs.

Please explain my flimsy second function to me. I'm all curious now.

Here it is:

Well what does Fi mean in practical terms? How long does it last? If you loved me today and tomorrow and so on for a year and a half, and I come to you after 5 years and say: hey I was in deep shit then but I really loved you, what would you say?

Ups, what are you talking about? I don't remember liking you at all, sorry....

[Kim]

Sounds like perfectly normal teenager behavior to me. I suggest you work through it and move on. This is not sufficient to make an generalizations about Socionics.

[Slacker]

Uhm ok. A girl flirted with you at one point a long time ago, and decided she wasn't really intersted. I think she told you she doesn't remember so you'll get off her case.

You are a nice looking young man. I'm sure you can meet other girls. Move on.

[Dioklecian]

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[anndelise]

*crosses her arms*

*taps her foot*

*checks the clock*

*awaits Dio's answer*

[Dioklecian]

Sounds like perfectly normal teenager behavior to me. I suggest you work through it and move on. This is not sufficient to make an generalizations about Socionics.

You are not seeing MY point, caring for ME, this happens with ENFPs all the time, they look out for HER! SHE has her own friends that talk trash behind my back, I need people that see my pain, my sense of betrayal, my sense of having been used.

But thats' what I mean about Fi, you don't really care, you say its' nothing, but if this same things happened to you, if a guy for instance just slept with your friend and left you, you would cry bloody murder.

[detail]

It's not only who says it's nothing. Unless a PoLR is actually a strong function.

[Dioklecian]

Well you guys say that Fi is love: what KIND of love is it when people simply and completely FORGET YOU! Fe people at least don't FORGET this kind of thing.

which infj, isfj, enfp, or esfp has actually stated that "Fi is love"???

Ups sorry

I was bussy with my pain

All Fi dominant types claim that Fi is love, most of my girlfriends have been Fi types, and 100 % of them were F types.

[Slacker]

Your guy sleeping with your friend is a far cry from some girl kissing you.

You're a teenager, right? That's what teens do. They kiss each other. I don't know what that has to do with "love" anyway.

You should be flattered that she wanted to kiss you and rest assured that other girls will want to kiss you in the future so long as you don't freak out about it afterward. You hanging onto it like this will scare girls off.

[Dioklecian]

It's not only who says it's nothing. Unless a PoLR is actually a strong function.

I am sorry I don't understand the POLR comment.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Dioklecian]

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[Slacker]

If you didn't want it, why do you keep obsessing about it? Kissing isn't what makes people sluts, but if you think she's a slut, you should be glad she isn't interested in you. There will be other girls. Just relax. Breathe in . . . breathe out . . . breathe in . . . breathe out . . .

[anndelise]

Well you guys say that Fi is love: what KIND of love is it when people simply and completely FORGET YOU! Fe people at least don't FORGET this kind of thing.

which infj, isfj, enfp, or esfp has actually stated that "Fi is love"???

Ups sorry

I was bussy with my pain

All Fi dominant types claim that Fi is love, most of my girlfriends have been Fi types, and 100 % of them were F types.

OH, what's the word i'm looking for...oh, it's right on the tip of my tongue....oh..oh wait, there it is..

BULLSHIT!!!

I have yet to see an Fi person say that "Fi is love".
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a kiss is not the same as sex..
whatever many years ago is not the same as it just occuring

and Dio...you've HAD someone attempt to understand your side of the story...and what did you do with it????

You REVERTED right back to this crap!!!!

[Dioklecian]

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[detail]

It's not only who says it's nothing. Unless a PoLR is actually a strong function.

I am sorry I don't understand the POLR comment.

It is irrelevant anyway, the point is that it's not only who say it's nothing.

[Dioklecian]

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[Slacker]

Teenagers (both boys and girls) are fickle. Ok, except you. You are definitely not fickle. Oh wait, you werent' interested, but then you wanted her, and now you think she's a slut, so you're fickle too.

But it's OK. That's part of youth. There's nothing wrong with changing your mind.

[Dioklecian]

All Fi dominant types claim that Fi is love.

Oh?

So waht is Fi, is it not a deep passion? For a person sometimes...

[Kim]

Sounds like perfectly normal teenager behavior to me. I suggest you work through it and move on. This is not sufficient to make an generalizations about Socionics.

You are not seeing MY point, caring for ME, this happens with ENFPs all the time, they look out for HER! SHE has her own friends that talk trash behind my back, I need people that see my pain, my sense of betrayal, my sense of having been used.

But thats' what I mean about Fi, you don't really care, you say its' nothing, but if this same things happened to you, if a guy for instance just slept with your friend and left you, you would cry bloody murder.

Uhm, he was INTp and he is alive and kicking. How does that fit into your little Fi/love theory?

[Dioklecian]

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[Slacker]

Oh yeah that happened to me too, Kim. ENTj. He's alive but I have no idea what's going on with him now. Nor do I care.

[Creepy-Diana]

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[Slacker]

Teenagers (both boys and girls) are fickle. Ok, except you. You are definitely not fickle. Oh wait, you werent' interested, but then you wanted her, and now you think she's a slut, so you're fickle too.

But it's OK. That's part of youth. There's nothing wrong with changing your mind.

The slut ruined my chances with half a dozen other girls.

No, Dio, and I'm truly trying to be kind and help you understand this. The girls are probably scared off by your reaction to this. This girl kissed you ages ago and you're still going on. I would run the other way. If girls saw another girl kissing you, at that age, it would just make them wonder what you've got going on and make them *more interested* not ruin your chances with them.

Truly, the best thing you can do is get over it and meet someone else.

[Kim]

Oh yeah that happened to me too, Kim. ENTj. He's alive but I have no idea what's going on with him now. Nor do I care.

My point exactly.