Enoch Powell: LIE
Enoch Powell: LIE
Enoch Powell - mb LSI
Seems more EIE.Originally Posted by Carolus
Too bad nobody listened.
Madison Woolbert - mb ISFJ
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Beyonce > SEE-Fi, in conversation with Oprah > EIE-Ni = relations of benefit
Noteworthy points >
- Notice Beyonce's more impassive, walled off, less mobile facial expressions (Fi) and overall demeanor in comparison to Oprah's more mobile, fluent, expressive, open, readily discernible (Fe) affect.
- In her questioning, Oprah tries to project her own Fe [enneagram 2w3] "need to please," "need to be liked," and chameleon like experience (always adapting to others, never being certain of her own identity) onto Beyonce's experience and Bey agrees to some extent but speaks to always having known who she was and never feeling the need to follow anyone or do what anyone else was doing, even as a kid (Fi).
- Beyonce says she's learned to be kind but strong, and that she must be fair to herself. She acknowledges that for the majority of her career, she's only given the public glimpses of who she is through her artistry and music because she believes that possessing a "mystique" is important. She says that there is still much that she doesn't share > Se and Fi af. Juxtaposed to Oprah who is the epitome of the bare all "open book."
- Oprah says that life is about connecting the dots and that there's a thread that runs through everyone's life and the purpose is to tether that thread to the dots (creative Ni); Beyonce says that she's beginning to notice the dots because she finally sees that they are everywhere and interrelated (suggestive Ni).
Last edited by Alonzo; 07-26-2019 at 02:23 PM.
^SEI
^ I’m not that familiar with Beyoncé, but the woman in that interview is Gamma as hell, and I agree with @Alonzo; SEE-Fi.
She's a bit like an ESI-Se whom I know, but she's crossed over the Extrovert line.
ESI-Fi > ESI > ESI-Se > SEE-Fi > SEE > SEE-Se
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Tarja Halonen, ex-president of Finland
ILI - Dominant
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Alena Schukina - ISFJ
Oprah - SEE
Beyonce - mb SEE
Tarja Halonen - mb LSI
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Barbara Loden: ESI
Hyori is more of an SEE I think, she has so much fun playing her roles as actress/singer. Also, her voice is off the charts ^_^
i really like esi's
if those are really ESIs
yeah you could've mistyped everyone of course, just like everyone else here. you're theory makes total sense - "you can only figure out your type through IR" - meanwhile you say that everyone is probably mistyped. you're one smart man. a little bit creepy though i have to say, finding random strangers on vk and typing them on here...
Last edited by maniac; 07-28-2019 at 11:19 AM.
IR are obligate step to be sure in your type
> meanwhile you say that everyone is probably mistype
a good chance that some or all of that group of your "ESI" are mistyped. it's significant % as that group should be small, your skills are low and there are bad typing skills in average
the more people you used to analize your IR effects, the lesser contradictions you see in their behavior to the theory - the lesser probability you mistake in what your IR effects are
as you still doubt even in your own type so you can't be sure in your typings skills to make the assertions alike above about ESIs. after you'll positively check your type by IR with people of different types IRL only then you'll have basic skills to gather a group of people of a concrete type to claim about them, especially people which are not IRL near your as this is harder to type such ones
you may need years of positive practice to have a possibility to type people good which are not IRL near you, as you have rather limited and doubtful data about them. you ignore this need because local noobs act the same, alike they may trust own opinions without having any basis to trust to them. the noobs want to talk now, but do not want to study the theme to be ready for that. it's not reasonable approach and on that I've pointed
understand your type, at least. then type actors and make opinions what you feel to actors of concrete types based on your own opinions
@Sol i haven't made the statement about esi's from irl people, i don't really type people irl. I've watched people that are commonly mistyped esi on here.
look - I've seen you made a statement that typings are on average 20 percent correct (or something along those lines) even yours. so how the hell does it make sense? and how the hell is a person going to deice their type based on IR if that statement is true? you make literally no sense. stop thinking you're above everyone else in typing others especially if you're not going to explain why. and yes, one CAN explain intuitive impressions. theres a reason no one likes you here and its not because everyone else is Fe-valuing.
I'm putting your retarded ass on block now. if i know you well enough you will still respond to this post because you literally have nothing better to do with your life than nitpick on the internet
SEE
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Fritz Lang: LIE
Friedkin is probably ILE
Last edited by Dauphin; 08-03-2019 at 06:24 AM.
Ilya Grun [2:20] - LIE
Senza Trucco - mb ESI
Last edited by Sol; 08-04-2019 at 01:49 AM.
James Rolfe - ESI? Or IXTX type? @Sol
ILE
Close enough.
ILI
Lars-Henrik Schmidt - ILI?
Tuppence Middleton - another ILI?
lie
Elena (socioneru) - ESI
I think I might hve found something really weird here.
Type 4 LIE?
I got no other guesses. His looks doesn't scream LIE, but his words do.
Especially at the 22:00 mark.
Mariana Premudraya - ENTJ
PIERRE XO - not LIE. too much clowning for them
Did you like, just assume my gender?
For sure I could see that. Can't understand what she is saying, but I see attributes of ESI here.
I can even see the entire Te suggestive stick "I have no idea what to do, please show me, then I will get it, understand it, and do it".
See how ESI are doers?
Yes, because when I think of the dreaded Holy Matres, the race of supremely deadly Planet destroying women, who sexually enslave men by imprinting them with sexual-mind-control, and hunt and murder billions of people, and use adrenaline producing prescient chemicals, I def think of introtram intuitive logicans.
ILI
They also need to have Fi sympathy to you and a trust in your Te to behave so
she's alike dreams holding some man for his important part
Its more like dominatrix femme fatale who will kill you in cold blood if you disobey. The Holy Matres also dramatically yell and scream at people who disagree with them before publicly killing them in huge spectacles. Their eyes are red with drug induced rage that is permanently embossed into their pupils.
Well you can't give retarded instructions for them. Trust takes time its not something that just given right away.They also need to have Fi sympathy to you and a trust in your Te to behave so
It's F type and so more important for them to trust are emotions and naive thoughts. The more they like you by any reason - the easier they agree with your opinions. This also helps to keep good emotions with those people further. Base Fi are the most conformistic types by personal sympathies.
She'll just reject to have a sex and you'll be wishing a suicide to stop the suffering.
> The Holy Matres also dramatically yell and scream at people who disagree with them before publicly killing them in huge spectacles.
to disagree or do not do what is asked for is a hard crime
So this is what you tell yourself? Wow, dumb. Thank God there is someone like you, how else would people be able to fix their toasters if not for you! Tell me, why again are you single? I mean, judging by this you really seem to have figured your dual and semi-duals out by now you should have a house and 2.7 children.
Strangly enough, even though SEE and IEE have flexible ethics, I see them as being more conformist under the surface and the most apt to conform others as well. Manipulative white ethics has a pathetic dark side.The more they like you by any reason - the easier they agree with your opinions. This also helps to keep good emotions with those people further. Base Fi are the most conformistic types by personal sympathies.
lmao. This is how it works in the book. Nothing is subtle about the Holy Matres. Which is why they are feared by the Bene Gessirit Sisterhood. For although they are deadly and beautiful women, they are cruel and aggressive and seek open flaunting power, like Men.She'll just reject to have a sex and you'll be wishing a suicide to stop the suffering.
In their conception of how the Universe should be, yes.> The Holy Matres also dramatically yell and scream at people who disagree with them before publicly killing them in huge spectacles.
to disagree or do not do what is asked for is a hard crime
To you and all who may misunderstand the theory basics, that people are not good in reasonable relation to info in own weak regions.
You, being F type, is a good example of the wrong thinking, which is based on your emotional preference to irrationally suppose yourself in weak regions better than you are.
bye, strange noob
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