You do know that paleoconservatism is The Man, don't you? Paleoconservatives are the definition of a conformist.Originally Posted by polikujm
You do know that paleoconservatism is The Man, don't you? Paleoconservatives are the definition of a conformist.
Yes, and it further embraces the truth: culture. Culture takes many forms, but is the evolution of man in disguise. Democracy destroys history, the foundation, and no one comes together until the very end of its aimless reign. Only the ignorant believe in a freedom that never was, a freedom from oneself.
All three are ridiculous caricatures and I refuse to identify with any.
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
You could always at least read the wikipedia descriptions of each one and then make a decision. Or you can continue being a ******.
The closest to my position in that poll is probably paleoconservative anyway.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Lachmannian monarcho-Leeian developmental market reformist.
2-subtype system: IEI-Fe
8-subtype system: D-IEI-Fe
16-subtype system: IEI-ESE
IEI-Fe 2w3 > p6w5 > 8w7 sx/so
"He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of living." - Edmond Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas père)
Say that three times fast.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Sounds good to me.
Quaero Veritas.
Cultural: strongly 1
Fiscal: moderately 1
Corporate: slightly 2. Neither description appealed to me or accurately reflected my views
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
Culture Group 2, Fiscal Group 2, Corporate Group 4: Fudge Packer
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
cultural - both descriptions are much too extreme to actually identify with them. My first reaction would have been to choose 1, because it sounds less evil. However, the first option sounds like promoting a chaotic society, which doesn't sound very well either. If I had to choose, I'd still go with the first one.
fiscal - 1. option
corporate - 2. option
It's quite odd: If someone is undecided in the first dichotomy but chooses the rest like me, the result would be either liberal or totalitarian. This can be extremely misleading because they are exact opposites aside from this chart, at least how I understand it.
I like the political compass better.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
It would be the complete opposite of classical liberalism (libertarianism). The liberalism this refers to is the progressive version, known as social-democracy in Europe, that advocates strong government in alleged protection of individual (mostly cultural) freedom. The "strong government" part is where totalitarianism and this version of Liberalism overlap.It's quite odd: If someone is undecided in the first dichotomy but chooses the rest like me, the result would be either liberal or totalitarian. This can be extremely misleading because they are exact opposites aside from this chart, at least how I understand it.
as for me, I'm sort of 1, 1.5, 1.5; the second two are empirical issues that need to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.
Ah, okay. I misunderstood this because it is different in english. 'This' liberalism here (I know it as 'social liberalism') refers to regulated markets but freedom in personal issues.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
This.
Definitely class 1 for culture, maybe class 1 for fiscal, but the last one was really fuzzy for me. Like I would agree with the basic premises of one but not its rammifications. I put myself down as class 1 on it for now, but I'm really not placing weight on it until I know what exactly it's trying to define.
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