Yeah, it does look like she is staring at nothing. In some sense weak Ni to me.
Yeah, it does look like she is staring at nothing. In some sense weak Ni to me.
Typing Taylor as an intuitive just because she performs and creates music is a joke.. You do not need be gifted in future projection or understanding developments from past or how it goes into future, nor do you need be good with mental imagery and have a very well-developed internal life to be a musician. Music itself is quite concrete, following the rhythm, and then selling an aesthetic to match said song and choreograph it.
Gulenko’s lsi typing of her is awful, she’s obviously an ESE..
In pure Kiersy, I suppose you an NF her.
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Did Gulenko really type her LSI? I only remember one person from his team giving her that type. Haven't looked at his website in a long time.
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Unfortunately, he did, and he also typed Carl Jung as being an LSI (initially typed him lii).Originally Posted by Still Alive
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Someone said Taylor could be LSE which makes even more sense that she's ESE. And she does seem SEE too, but she doesn't have gamma values. She seems more EIE than SEI because she is an ESE who uses a lot of will and energy.
I think ppl like her music since it's very Si and about aesthetics, which some SEIs can have similar music that way too.
Some LSIs can behave similarly but she's not rigid enough for it and she doesn't try to change other people's behavior that way.
I had an ESE classmate and an LSI one. My ESE classmate was very talkative and warm, but the LSI guy didn't like me very much I think and was always complaining about my behavior. He quite literally tried to change the way I acted. Some people were annoyed by the ESE because she would talk ober others. The LSI didn't like to be around a lot of people though or was nearly as expressive, but he tried to get reactions out of people in a different way than ESEs do.
She doesn't strike me as ESE but I can't say for sure what I would type her as.
Idk but prob Fe ego
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I didn't know she was originally a country singer. In fact I didn't know about her except her name prior to about eight months ago. At 16 she already had the natural talent to put herself on "stage". She is very comfortable with being the center of the attention, in fact she manipulates the environment like a hollywood star. She is very aware of the Energy of the room so to speak. This level of awareness is good enough for know without seeing it who lays eyes on her and who doesn't in the room. It's like a sixth sense at this point. She manifestly was in the right place at the right moment to be noticed by a Super Star country singer. Whether she planned it or not doesn't really matter, "Ni" is on her side.
From a strict archetypal point of view she is the "Lyricist", at least that's the role she thinks she incarnates and it fits with the reality of her behavior and image. Whether or not she constructed and cultivated that image on purpose or not doesn't really matter, "Fe" is on her side. Personally, I see her as the "Queen Bee" archetype, she enter a room and vampires everybody in it so they are all in awe, at her feet so to speak. She feeds on their love and admiration, she is a natural born Super Star because she got the look (a beautiful girl) and the energetic "oomph" and ambition that goes with it. She wouldn't have been Taylor Swift if she wasn't beautiful. She knew how to use that charming asset to get where she want to be. She is also the product of an Americana success story. Once she had the camera on her she did what it takes to keep the attention of a whole country. From that moment, she was both the producer and the Star of her own Reality show.
From what I've seen in that video, she definitely has Mental Ni (either on Ego or Super-Ego block) and Ego Fe without a doubt. 4:48 to 5:14 HD Ni / 5:14 to 5:52 again strong Ni Ego./ 5.53 to 6.14 HD Ne and Fe (she's definitely an NF type) In term of Energy she doesn't vibe like an Ip but rather like an EJ (she "works" a lot btw !). Her Te is also Mental so I'm leaning EIE. That's my definitive typing of her, I considered IEI and ESE for a while but the video above added some clarity on her life trajectory and how she became the "Taylor Swift" phenomenon. I haven't finished watching the video above (I stopped at 6.55) but I think I had enough data (for now..).
Edit :Wait, hold on ! I must verify something she might be IEI after all (Fe accepting or Producing ? I have doubt now).
7:53 to 8.09 indication of HD Ne Vital Producing that would be in Demonstrative Ne in Model A.
8.08 to 8.16 "I feel something, I turn it into a song" indication of Fe accepting "That's how some of my best songs have been written" Te (norm and Mental).
8.25 to 8.34 HD Ni (interest in sharing Ni info indicative of Ni Mental and using it to counter a possible Te (Super-Ego) critic against her)
8.56 to 9.11 strong Fi vital and accepting put in context with the "When I'm not working" which a) points to a situation (3D) and b) to a private attitude out of the Te SuperEgo context and more in the private sphere which means Vital information.
9.38 to 10.13 note : she seeks the opinion of her friends because they are honest with her (well she thinks (?) that they are) using that group as a test for the emotional impact of her songs.
(10.13 to 10.24 that lady has Mental Fi (Ego ?) !)
10.24 to 10.34 Norm Te and HD Fi, Ne and Fe (she displays a talent for charming people and "hooking" them, a very useful skill for business !). Note the Fi accepting : "Seeing that they liked the song really encouraged me" (i.e. energises me which is an Fe info)"
10.54 to 11.11 HD Fi and Fe seeking T feedbacks.All for the sake of Fe.
11.21 to 11.27 emphasizing her Te role
11.35 to 11.41 Fe making people doing things... The Fe effect her is accepting.
11.43 to 11.50 the passage of this song is about Si struggling ("just a girl trying to find a place in this world") she talked about the genesis of that song earlier in the video.
Okay I will stop there, I think EIE is a good fit in Model A and IEI-CD in Model G.
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Actually now I'm thinking EIE or IEI. I'm probably leaning a bit more towards IEI
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You mean you've nearly recovered from a mental health crisis? Oh... I couldn't even tell you had any mental problems whatsoever. Wow, I'm just sitting here stunned by that.
Ah... I see. Well that's not personality disordered. So not a crisis. Just a melting down of sorts. Collapse of the feeling of stability deep within and overwhelming flooding of incoherence / violently unstable emotion welling up... just standard stuff as far as mental cracking goes.
Shes got to certainly be a narcissist, but I think most famous people are. You would almost have to be to be her kind of famous. I don’t understand the worship of her by her fans, or most famous people.They are human. Unless maybe it’s Gene Wilder. He’s an exception.
But she seems E3 to me. And an extrovert. Probably fe. Probably Beta. So probably EIE.im pretty sure I’ve said this before on here.
Yeah I don't really understand the whole Taylor Swift obsession either. She might be functioning as like an alter-ego for women who want to break free of men and be... strong, independent, liberated women who are worshipped by the society at large. Like she's become a female version of Neitzsche's ubermesche, or something like that. But usually this sort of role model idealization is something I associated with boys and their fathers, I never really saw the daughter / mother relationship this way... it's a bit strange but there must be something to it. Though I can see how with the failing economy / failing relationships between the sexes there's more pressure for women to be like this.
It's probably somewhat depressing for the Swifties though, because there's always going to be a gap between the self and the alter-ego.
It's not my thing musically but I guess if I was into pop music she'd be alright as far as pop music goes, because she at least writes her own songs, so obviously does have talent for what it is. Though as far as real talent in composing pop music I think Lana Del Rey is more talented than Taylor Swift. But to each their own.
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No... Gulenko school representatives are not representatives of Gulenko's opinion and same goes with model G.
For instance they may claim that Gulenko's web site's information is not his opinion...
That is absurd. Gulenko typed Jung LII-NH you can find it in Q&A section which seems rather long way of finding it + you will need translation
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I had brief discussions with some of them and they had their own opinion on things which contradicted Gulenko's views. In the end it's just a loose collective of people who share some similarities in views. It would be like me creating a school with godslave, you, nifl and Adam Strange. No one would have the same view. I'm not even sure if some of the members of his school even extensively read his stuff. One guy in his school is working for the police or something and conducting resrearch there. he probably just borrows some elements.
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I can see why people would think IEI instead of EIE, but somehow I think an IEI would have more...grace when performing.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
Do you have some link to back this up? If G really typed Jung LSI that would be nice to know for sure. I think it's obvious that Jung is LII so I need some proof that G really sees things that way because it seems absurd.
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Both LSI and LII are absurd.
There are only 16 types and over 8.000.000.000 people. Whatever you think about the characteristic of a 'type' is likely incorrect and doesn't reflect actual reality.
That's even more absurd of a typing
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