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    so as not to hijack my own crappy thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    It should be possible to throw Fi around in the chat without people vomiting, fleeing and dying all over the place. :wink:

    how is that ? wouldn't it be ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    so as not to hijack my own crappy thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    It should be possible to throw Fi around in the chat without people vomiting, fleeing and dying all over the place. :wink:

    how is that ? wouldn't it be ?
    is emotion

    We've been through this before.

    http://oldforumlinkviewtopic.php?t=2...r=asc&start=30

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    I fail to see how that clarifies this question.

    According to my understanding, is how we view the emotions and feelings and needs and wants of ourselves and others. It is our understanding of these things. On the other hand, is what we use to affect responses from others, including what we display as our own emotions.
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    To cut the long story short is what is going inside and how it shows on outside. So if you talk about your feelings it would be If you show your feelings (obviously through emotion) that would be which you cannot do in the chatroom. Satisfied with my answer? Is there anything else I can help you with?

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    I get your point now, thank you, but I'm still not certain I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobrainer
    To cut the long story short is what is going inside and how it shows on outside. So if you talk about your feelings it would be If you show your feelings (obviously through emotion) that would be which you cannot do in the chatroom. Satisfied with my answer? Is there anything else I can help you with?
    No, I disagree. is not talking about your emotions. Where is that coming from??

    Relational ethics...:

    subjective emotional relationships between objects - attraction vs. repulsion, like vs. dislike, need of each other, love, friendship, antipathy, ethical norms, morals, qualitative properties, subjective judgments
    Positive(short range):
    Good relations — love, friendship, sympathy, an attraction, heat of attitudes, the sociability, a close psychological distance, kindly, pity;
    Negative (long range):
    Bad attitudes — hatred, enmity, antipathy, pushing away, estrangement, the unsociability, a far psychological distance, angrily, ruthlessness.
    (from 16types)

    Topaz wrote (which rings true for me):
    does not like its emotions laid out for the public to walk on. It is subtle, removed, focused on principles and intergrity etc. All that personal emotion is reserved for just a few. Everyone else gets principled kindness.
    more later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim

    No, I disagree. is not talking about your emotions.

    who said that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobrainer
    To cut the long story short is what is going inside and how it shows on outside. So if you talk about your feelings it would be If you show your feelings (obviously through emotion) that would be which you cannot do in the chatroom. Satisfied with my answer? Is there anything else I can help you with?
    ok, talk about your feelings. I raise the same objections.
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    Oh I am so sorry I didn't know that talking about emotions is the same as talking about feelings...

    Emotions == Feelings

    Yeah sure

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    Why the fuck are we having an argument here then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Quote Originally Posted by nobrainer
    To cut the long story short is what is going inside and how it shows on outside. So if you talk about your feelings it would be If you show your feelings (obviously through emotion) that would be which you cannot do in the chatroom. Satisfied with my answer? Is there anything else I can help you with?
    ok, talk about your feelings. I raise the same objections.
    God damn edits

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    Why can't people just hold to the promises they make...
    “Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Why can't people just hold to the promises they make...
    where is that coming from?

    okay... so like I was saying, is about the emotions, needs, and wants of humans. I think it's being able to see the position of others and considering how things will effect that position. Grrr.... I'm still a bit confused here.

    Need.

    Food.

    Okay, how's this: means the things going on inside people and means the things going on around people that affect them (where as is more about objects rather than people).
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    so is sex or ?
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    or ?
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    MAYBE I'LL BREAK DOWN!!!


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    ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhaahahahhahaha

    this makes no sense to me in terms of my life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    Quote Originally Posted by Kim
    Why can't people just hold to the promises they make...
    where is that coming from?

    okay... so like I was saying, is about the emotions, needs, and wants of humans. I think it's being able to see the position of others and considering how things will effect that position. Grrr.... I'm still a bit confused here.

    Need.

    Food.

    Okay, how's this: means the things going on inside people and means the things going on around people that affect them (where as is more about objects rather than people).
    You're getting there. is how manifested to the outer world.

    Think about it, you meet someone who shows no emotion to you whatsoever, you cannot provoke any emotional response either. Zero. You normally know how ppl feel about you (Joy) by reading their emotions. How zero emotion will make you feel? Uncomfortable. ISFjs can turn cold like that easily when they need to for the purpose of punishing you ENTPs. INFjs know this trick as well.

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    emotional apathy doesn't bother me... it's better than dealing with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy
    emotional apathy doesn't bother me... it's better than dealing with
    WTF are you on about?

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    fine, or

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    emoting, expressing, influencing others' emotions, emotional intelligence?

    socio-ethical system, relationships between people, social intelligence?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nobrainer
    You're getting there. is how manifested to the outer world.

    Think about it, you meet someone who shows no emotion to you whatsoever, you cannot provoke any emotional response either. Zero. You normally know how ppl feel about you (Joy) by reading their emotions. How zero emotion will make you feel? Uncomfortable. ISFjs can turn cold like that easily when they need to for the purpose of punishing you ENTPs. INFjs know this trick as well.
    So would that also be why INFps can't hide their emotions? (being dominant not dominant, I mean?)

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    >
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirana

    socio-ethical system, relationships between people, social intelligence?
    It all comes to how you feel about someone in the end

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    sorry forgot to log in

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobrainer
    sorry forgot to log in
    ahahahahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy in another thread
    I will argue though that NTs, in relationships, say more with an embrace than they ever do with words. We're very affectionate.
    Is this an example of being the hidden agenda and being the POLR?
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