This is a huge shitpost but I’m bored and skipping school
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@Chae mb E-1
Accuracy of from Sol gets better when you do YXE<->XYI switch.
Sometimes XYZ<->YXZ you need to apply switch as well.
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Uh, no. That makes no sense whatsoever. They do however tend to be high in conscientiousness and rational types. I don't think it's possible to be low in conscientiousness and to be an E1 -- that can't work. And I usually leave some room for rare possibilities, but low conscientiousness is not possible with E1 imo.
You spoted my mistake, squark. Obviously I was distraced while writing.
I correct my statement in my previous post.
Extroverted Perception + Introverted Judgement and E-type 1 is rare.
I knew what you meant, and it doesn't make sense. However, having any judging element as your lead does make sense (in other words, rational types.) Rational types are far more likely to be E1, with XSTJ being the most common. Reason for this is because in order to look at the world in terms of perfecting it or yourself, you almost have to be judging lead.
I was looking for words in confusion and then you said them ma'am thanks^ Good observation, it's quite meta. I like that. You type someone by how they say they want to be typed. Which ultimately gives them away.
There are some other 7 moves he pulled in other threads. Getting drunk for the fun of it, inviting us to party with him pretty much, it's hella cute Don't know, that would not be 3 who wants to control their image through a performance. He fits the 7's wanderer archetype with that, 7 sx = maximum experience in life, what you think about that. What about a simple test:
The lead element determines the type. Creative is only the support element. First element is accepting and evaluatory, basically it's your "worldview" while creative is situational and modifies the lead. In other words, consider a Ne sub LII - the Ne enhances the Ti into a more abstract direction, but Ti is still the worldview fxn, still the lead. Anyway, if creative could take over the lead spot, you'd be a different type altogether (this is also why the sub-sub-sub type system is bullshit, because it assumes modifications that prevent the lead from being the lead)
http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.p...nd_Situational
EIE are more rude than IEE?
She has E-3 + (E-8 or an 8-wing) in her E-tritype, thats the reason why she has a more aggressive expression style. IEE can have E-3 and E-8 in the E-tritype.
btw. Neither nor have a strong correlation to E-type 1.
has the strongest correlation to E-type 5, and has strong correlations to both E-type 4 and 9,
the strongest correlation to E-type 1 has and ,
which makes sense to me. Because the desire for perfection is caused by introverted perception, not introverted judgement.
Your approach of typing is so obvious to me.
...and do you still think I'm a F type?
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Ok, squark, here is a link to the "bullshit" study.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-pri...nneagram-2/18/
None of that has anything to do with socionics. That's MBTI dude. Different systems.
And seeing as typing is done by dichotomies most often: ISTJs, ISFJs, INTJ, INFJs which will technically be "si" and "ni" by MBTI are probably actually Ti and Fi by socionics.
Just read about Enneagram 1, and you'll see. Here's a good source: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-1
MBTI and socionics, yeah, clash of ideologies like capitalism and communism.
As far as I understand both theories are based on the Jung's cognitive functions, unless you are telling me the cognitive functions are also different for MBTI and socionics, I asume the cognitive functions are the same for both theories.
I can see I possibly source of error. The statics is built up from MBTI test results.
Ok, can you provide a better source of socionic types and fitting E-types?
Some of them actually are pretty different, but it's more that the introverted types given the same names and roughly describing the same sorts of people have completely different fxns. An ISTP in MBTI is probably an ISTP in socionics (MB tests are usually/mostly dichotomy based), but the MBTI ISTP is Ti-Se, and the socionics ISTP is Si-Te. The way Si and Se are described in MBTI vs socionics is also quite different. People who have come here after intensive study of MBTI will be able to elaborate more I'm sure, but some have already discussed this pretty thoroughly. Neither one is entirely congruent with Jung's original ideas.
I don't have a source comparing socionics types and their respective E-types besides my own knowledge and experience. And you can also use your own here. It's hard to read even the first suggestion given to E1s "learn to relax" and think that could possibly apply to Si-leads more than IJs, yeah?Ok, can you provide a better source of socionic types and fitting E-types?
There actually used to be an article on this website that correlated socionics types with enneagram types, but it's since been deleted.
MBTI and socionics are two different systems and they should be treated as such. There's a reason why the J-P switch is constantly brought up in socionics circles, even if some of the MBTI populace doesn't quite understand the mechanics of it since it's not as simple as it's usually made out to be.
Both typology systems drew inspiration from Jung's psychological types, but they interpreted the text differently. Most MBTI descriptions were written by strangers on the internet, half of whom haven't even read Jung's psychological types, whereas socionics descriptions were written by a relatively consistent group of individuals who more-or-less just built on top of Augusta [insert confusing last name here]'s initial theory which finds its roots in ITR. Their psychometric evaluations don't even measure J-P (rationality vs irrationality) the same way. MBTI measures J-P by how organized, punctual, and hardworking you are in your everyday life (in its most simplified form) whereas socionics measures J-P based on whether you lead by Ji/Je or Pi/Pe.
This is the most relevant correlation chart I can find atm, which at least debunks the notion that Si-dominant types in MBTI = Si-leading types in socionics. The sensing functions/IEs are probably defined the most differently. In some ways, they're even the exact opposite of what they are in MBTI.
Why Si or Ni would have strong correlation with E1?
There are rational (j) and irrational elements (p). Ti by definition is a rational element, so it would have more correlation with 1 than Si (irrational), then having Ti as leading increases the chances of having 1 in tritype.
SEIs and SLIs type often 9 (gut type) since they are Si leading (irrational element, p).
Rational elements (Thinking, Feeling) have more in common with 1 due its basic concerns (perfection, moral, correctness) according theory. The rest of elements (sensing, intuition) are irrational.
Now, by definition, Si is too interested in convenience, comfort, pleasure and enjoying the moment to be 1. Ti is structural logic, concerned with systems, organization, correctness, consistency etc.
1 is rational, idealistic, principled, perfectionist, its basic fear is being corrupt/evil or wrong.
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The lack of Enneagram 4 Delta NFs is disturbing to me. It's like a dissonance.
Wow, I stand corrected. He has tons of Ne.
I was basing my opinion on the "feel" of some of the books I've read by him, rather than on any video I've seen (because I've never seen a video of him live.) But I agree with you, @Penny Dreadful. IRL, he does not resemble very much the male IEI's that I know.
@Adam Strange, its okay, like I said, I still love you. What did we learn today? Don't type a person based on his work, because Balzac exists too.
Anyway, I'm a Neil Gaiman fanboy, so I ought to know ;P
Is that Keirsey or MBTI vs Socionics comparison chart?
However word usage might make so called mastermind sound like SLE. Basically Keirsey's descriptions fail to clearly state where it is truly applicable hence culture gives own spin on things. How we define power etc.
Also it idealizes some traits and does not take into account different skill levels.
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Yeah, even before these posts I’ve been thinking that I should go back to 7. You two could be right. Don’t mind the 2 day late reply btw - I’ve been working my booty off lately. I’m thinking now maybe that being a Gamma 7 (specifically SEE/Gamma SF 7) brings me more practical and SF-y goals than some other kinds of 7s, which might be causing me to identify with 3 more. But I just stopped listing that part of my type and stopped trying to decide on which one because in the end it has little effect on me.
I do feel like both work a lot with each other when it comes to my personality, but it’s true I’ve done more things than a 3 would just for the sake of experience (and things that could hinder a 3’s image building as well ). Time will tell.
Thanks for feedback!
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