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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I will exaggerate a bit for the purpose of illustration.

    "oh, you did not jump out of joy when I gave you that present. You didn't like it!"

    "why do you never smile? Don't you like us?"

    "How can you not want to join in the fun when everybody's having fun and dancing?"

    Etc etc etc
    Understandable, and that's okay. I happen to get irritated by the judgmental and ethical double-standards of -valuers, so it's all okay in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I will exaggerate a bit for the purpose of illustration.

    "oh, you did not jump out of joy when I gave you that present. You didn't like it!"

    "why do you never smile? Don't you like us?"

    "How can you not want to join in the fun when everybody's having fun and dancing?"

    Etc etc etc
    Told you I didn't value Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Told you I didn't value Fe.
    It scares me.

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    What, Fe scares you or the fact that I devalue Fe scares you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    What, Fe scares you or the fact that I devalue Fe scares you?
    Fe scares me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Fe scares me
    Extrofeelafobia? Dude that sux. Sometimes I'm ok with the fact that I'm pretty much only afraid of heights and spiders, oh and midget hookers... now that's some scary shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Extrofeelafobia? Dude that sux. Sometimes I'm ok with the fact that I'm pretty much only afraid of heights and spiders, oh and midget hookers... now that's some scary shit.
    Haha! Your cool

    I'm a midget hooker! (l/k..honest )

    What about spiderman ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post

    What about spiderman ??
    As long as he's not swinging from a building while holding me by my ankles I think I'm ok with him. Now, if he actually looked like a spider I'd probably kick him in the nuts when he got close. Bad part about that though, then I'd probably be cast as a villain. Which sux cuz nobody really likes them and they NEVER get the girl in the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    As long as he's not swinging from a building while holding me by my ankles I think I'm ok with him. Now, if he actually looked like a spider I'd probably kick him in the nuts when he got close. Bad part about that though, then I'd probably be cast as a villain. Which sux cuz nobody really likes them and they NEVER get the girl in the movies.
    Dark spiderman almost struck it good. And then when superman wen't bad he seemed to spend all his time drinking..not such a bad compromise actually..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Dark spiderman almost struck it good. And then when superman wen't bad he seemed to spend all his time drinking..not such a bad compromise actually..
    Well, they didn't turn into villians as much as screw up with their super powers... like, if i could see through walls... i'd more than likely be cast in a bad light as I would sit in awe while watching people through walls. Really, would I ever really need porn again? I can't imagine I would...hahahahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Well, they didn't turn into villians as much as screw up with their super powers... like, if i could see through walls... i'd more than likely be cast in a bad light as I would sit in awe while watching people through walls. Really, would I ever really need porn again? I can't imagine I would...hahahahaha.
    Ugh..you haven't seen my next door neighbour... **I never wanted these powers..God!..WHY did you choose me aha!!**

    On the subject of walls, you know, some of the conversations I've had with other folks around here has made me feel like I'm as well talking to one hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Ugh..you haven't seen my next door neighbour... **I never wanted these powers..God!..WHY did you choose me aha!!**

    On the subject of walls, you know, some of the conversations I've had with other folks here has made me feel like I'm as well talking to one hehehe
    Well, you may have to walk around a bit to use these gawking at people through walls powers... but I'm sure there'd be a way to get something good out of them. Or maybe you could fly instead... how fun would it be to mess with people on planes and drive them crazy as you're sitting on the wing of their plane doing yoga or running in place, or popping your head into their window every once in a while just to make them think they're nuts.

    The wall thing is the nature of this forum. You just have to figure which walls you feel like running into or if they're better left standing there as you walk around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    Well, you may have to walk around a bit to use these gawking at people through walls powers... but I'm sure there'd be a way to get something good out of them. Or maybe you could fly instead... how fun would it be to mess with people on planes and drive them crazy as you're sitting on the wing of their plane doing yoga or running in place, or popping your head into their window every once in a while just to make them think they're nuts.
    Invisibility would be even better than the walls thing. Would I ever be out the girls changing rooms? 'Whats that that touched me?!'..'Oh it must have just been the wind'... Ahahaha yeah right! Sigh..when do you reckon I should grow up!! )

    So do we use these special powers for the good of mankind, or simply just to be a bit of a perv
    Quote Originally Posted by cracka View Post
    The wall thing is the nature of this forum. You just have to figure which walls you feel like running into or if they're better left standing there as you walk around them.
    Well put. You got the heart of a poet?

    I don't know if I'm superman. But you know I'm fairly sure I'm super, and the other part, well isn't that a given!
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    All this stuff about "Alpha Fe" vs. "Beta Fe" is ridiculous. Nobody ever talks about "Gamma Te" vs. "Delta Te".

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    All this stuff about "Alpha Fe" vs. "Beta Fe" is ridiculous. Nobody ever talks about "Gamma Te" vs. "Delta Te".
    of course people do.


    for one thing, consider how many alphas and betas are on these forums as compared to gammas and deltas, particularly delta STs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Lol, there's quite a few active delta ST's....

    <3 to all of em..
    umm... aut0 and heath? the epitome of active, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffweed17 View Post
    of course people do.
    Rarely.

    for one thing, consider how many alphas and betas are on these forums as compared to gammas and deltas, particularly delta STs.
    Good point, but this creates the impression that there is a bigger difference between quadra variations of Fe than of other elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    This is "Alpha Fe in its purest form".

    Some of you may prefer not to watch it - a bit old.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=GRK0ZeMB4gI
    This is awesome...tons of Fe and Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Good point, but this creates the impression that there is a bigger difference between quadra variations of Fe than of other elements.
    Personally I don't feel responsible for the "impression" that discussions are making. If people want to see unwarranted meanings behind everything, they will see them, and I can't be bothered to bend over backwards to avoid something that will happen anyway - at least not here; I already have to do that too often IRL.

    And of course there is a big difference between Alpha Fe and Beta Fe. That is precisely the reason, I think, why many Betas, even Beta NFs, don't like the usual descriptions of Fe, which were written mainly from an Alpha perspective.

    And yes, there is equally a big difference between Gamma Fi and Delta Fi, and Gamma Te and Delta Te - however, it will be more difficult to find videos on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Expat
    What I (and perhaps others) dislike is an "expectation of reaction" to Fe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Expat View Post
    I will exaggerate a bit for the purpose of illustration.

    "oh, you did not jump out of joy when I gave you that present. You didn't like it!"

    "why do you never smile? Don't you like us?"

    "How can you not want to join in the fun when everybody's having fun and dancing?"

    Etc etc etc
    This sort of thing is why I initially thought Fe was my PoLR. I really don't like this sort of thing... it makes me want to escape.

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    But even that does not necessarily sound like a healthy Alpha SF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But even that does not necessarily sound like a healthy Alpha SF.
    That's what I'm wondering... there are people in real life that pry into your feelings or lack of a reaction like that... It's very invasive... especially when it's about "fun" and "enjoyment" and "smiling." Maybe such people are just annoying to everyone, and then they just jump to mind as examples of Fe ego types... and then we all think "I really hate Fe."

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    Alpha Fe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    All this stuff about "Alpha Fe" vs. "Beta Fe" is ridiculous. Nobody ever talks about "Gamma Te" vs. "Delta Te".
    When folks put alpha function vs beta function is it like trying to say which one is better or something.

    I think the comparison of a function gets murkier when its a creative function. For instance some of the INTp posts I see makes it look to me that they think very differently from me, which I guess their Te must be really different in action because its coming from their Ni. I'm ISTp btw.

    I was kinda hoping socionics would help me be able to understand people better, but sometimes it's like it makes me realise the differences are even bigger, rather than surmountable.

    What do you, or anyone else think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logos View Post
    But even that does not necessarily sound like a healthy Alpha SF.
    As I said, I exaggerated a bit to make the point (which is perhaps already a use of Fe?). But I have heard that kind of comment - sometimes in a low-key way, but there - many times. Sometimes they're not saying it, but later they wonder if you're happy because you don't seem to be, according to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's what I'm wondering... there are people in real life that pry into your feelings or lack of a reaction like that... It's very invasive... especially when it's about "fun" and "enjoyment" and "smiling." Maybe such people are just annoying to everyone, and then they just jump to mind as examples of Fe ego types... and then we all think "I really hate Fe."
    I think the difference is that, however exaggerated or annoying, people who value Alpha Fe will at least see where the person is coming from, even if agreeing that the precise behavior may be annoying or unhealthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    When folks put alpha function vs beta function is it like trying to say which one is better or something.
    No, it is like trying to understand socionics better.
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