Originally Posted by
Jarno
But I'm still figuring out if Information Elements are something a newcomer should be worrying about. As I see many cases where it creates more confusion then insights.
Maybe most IM descriptions are too abstract, which make them more difficult to apply then dichotomy's.
But the problem with this approach is the following: it does nothing to explain relationships.
Let us take ENTj as example:
According to dichotomies, ok. E, N, T, j.
The ENTj's dual: ISFj: I, S, F, j.
The ENTj's conflictor: ISFp: I, S, F, p.
A newcomer should then ask, "what? So a change in ONE dichotomy is enough to turn the best relationship into the worst? And why only rationality/irrationality HAS to be the same, while all the others have to be the opposite?!"
Moving then on to two other good relationships, activity and mirror - ESFp and INTp.
The newcomer should then ask, "wtf? So these two are positive relationships, even though they are irrational like the ISFp (which so bad)?"
I hope you see what I'm getting at. If you focus on the 4 dichotomies, the relationships - especially if you start to think of all the others -
can't be explained. The newcomer would think - with reason - that the relationships are arbitrary, or that they are based on observations but nobody can explain them.
The only way to properly understand how, and why, say, the ENFp is the ENTj's benefactor and the ESTp is the beneficiary and not vice-versa (or whatever) is by understanding the functions.
Unless the purpose is not to understand relationships - but in this case there is no point to going for socionics.