I just can not win in this world :(

[Angel von Himmel]

I went to go see a thearapist this morning to discuss my ENTp related problems, and the guy turned out to be an ISFj ...

[Scrummy]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaa
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah

Well said.

[Rocky]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaa
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaah
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah

Well said.

McNew, Thanks for making me feel, much, much better. I always like to grade myself on a scale of how well off I seem compared to others. :wink:

[Angel von Himmel]

o rly? That kind of sucks ass. Is it possible to request a new one?

The only experience with therapy that I had was when I had a shrink for 9 months when I was thirteen. But luckily he was my dual.

Well, I sure am not going back ... I am going to go look for a diffrent
way to get therapy.

Not only did I realize the guy was ISFj nearly the moment I met
him, I got this horrible stress headache that ISTjs and ISFjs always
seem to give me. A primary indication that I should not be getting
theraphy there ...

Anyhow, I need someone else to talk to about my problems with. I really do not want to go back.

[diamond]

He's just rapping Rodney . . . no respect, no respect.

I needed some empathy today and went to an intj. They ripped me a new a**hole.

I needed some spiritual direction today and went to an esfp. They bought me an issue of "In Style".

And so on . . . .

[Angel von Himmel]

He's just rapping Rodney . . . no respect, no respect.

I needed some empathy today and went to an intj. They ripped me a new a**hole.

I needed some spiritual direction today and went to an esfp. They bought me an issue of "In Style".

And so on . . . .

Actually, I really did go to see a thearpist today, and he was really ISFj.

It will work, I just need to find a therapist I like and then I can resolve
my problems without feeling anxious and stress ridden hopefully.

[Joy]

I know you know this but...

I just want to remind you that a therapist's job is not to help us, but to teach us to help ourselves.

[diamond]

He's just rapping Rodney . . . no respect, no respect.

I needed some empathy today and went to an intj. They ripped me a new a**hole.

I needed some spiritual direction today and went to an esfp. They bought me an issue of "In Style".

And so on . . . .

Actually, I really did go to see a thearpist today, and he was really ISFj.

It will work, I just need to find a therapist I like and then I can resolve
my problems without feeling anxious and stress ridden hopefully.

I know you were serious. I was joking.

Therapy takes a while.

Don't sweat it. It's going to be OK. The most useless thing is to have feelings about your feelings.

[Joy]

The most useless thing is to have feelings about your feelings.

Are you implying that there's a way to NOT do this?

[Angel von Himmel]

I agree it sounds funny, but ironic things seem to just happen like that in my life.

[trey]

is this like socionics meets rodney dangerfield?

[diamond]

The most useless thing is to have feelings about your feelings.

Are you implying that there's a way to NOT do this?

No . . . only that it jams up the process a little.

[Joy]

My problem has always been thinking WAY too much.

[Artemis]

My problem has always been thinking WAY too much.

My problem is I don't think at all!

[discojoe]

http://orlyorlyorlyorly.ytmnd.com/

[MysticSonic]

http://yearoftheowl.ytmnd.com/

[diamond]

My problem has always been thinking WAY too much.

My problem is I don't think at all!

My problem is I dont' think about the right things.

[Joy]

My problem has always been thinking WAY too much.

My problem is I don't think at all!

My problem is I dont' think about the right things.

Me either, but then do you feel frustrated with yourself for it? And then angry for feeling frustrated? And then guilty for caring so much? And then depressed for the whole mess? And then guilty for feeling depressed? And then frustrated for for feeling guilty? LOL

[Jimbean]

An ENTp goes to a therapist who happens to be an ISFj...

[NeonMonk]

You need an ENFP therapist, rmcnew.

[stefana]

//

[diamond]

My problem has always been thinking WAY too much.

My problem is I don't think at all!

My problem is I dont' think about the right things.

Me either, but then do you feel frustrated with yourself for it? And then angry for feeling frustrated? And then guilty for caring so much? And then depressed for the whole mess? And then guilty for feeling depressed? And then frustrated for for feeling guilty? LOL

I used to. Now I try to isolate the thing that's most related to my goals and think about that. And I've tried to stop caring about whether people like me or not, what they think of me, and whether I'm popular or not. Better to tune into the feelings of the other person since mine are always way too intense.

[Artemis]

Blaze said: "And I've tried to stop caring about whether people like me or not, what they think of me, and whether I'm popular or not. Better to tune into the feelings of the other person since mine are always way too intense."

I'm not recommending this but it was a life altering event for me. I was in a car accident when I was 26. Had to have my face put back together. Lots of people say I was better looking before the accident . . . I'm not scarred up or anything! The bones underneath my skin where broken . . . my upper and lower jaws and my chin. My face is totally different and 6 mm shorter than it was. My beautiful perfect Jewish nose is gone. But the weird thing is I have never been self counscience since then. All the "what do/will people think" just vanished. I don't know why, but I am grateful. But then maybe that's why I am such an ass at times and so unfeeling and unsympathetic . . . not sure . . . who knows.

[diamond]

Wow, that is quite an experience. And great that you came through it even better than before. I bet it took some courage, too.

I was in a car accident when I was 20 - I got a concussion and ended up with double vision, which never completely went away. I learned to compensate, though.

[Angel von Himmel]

You need an ENFP therapist, rmcnew.

I am not sure if that would be the best thing, but it would be a lot better than having an ISFj as a therapist.

[diamond]

You need an ENFP therapist, rmcnew.

I am not sure if that would be the best thing, but it would be a lot better than having an ISFj as a therapist.

Infj therapist. Your therapist is sposed to kind of supervise you.

[Darklord]

Oh, God, a supervisor therapist ! Not good, not good.
*Smacks Blaze*
The idea is to make RMcNew feel better, not to crush his self confidence into tiny little shards and then inject them into his bottom!

No, get yourself a nice little ISFp therapist, RMcNew. You deserve it :wink: .

[Angel von Himmel]

This may seem odd, but the fact that my mother is an ISFp sort of makes me want to find a girl of a diffrent type. Maybe a hot little ESFj number would do me just fine, those chicks are classy. Also maybe an INTj girl, if I can find one.

[xiuxiu]

This may seem odd, but the fact that my mother is an ISFp sort of makes me want to find a girl of a diffrent type. Maybe a hot little ESFj number would do me just fine, those chicks are classy. Also maybe an INTj girl, if I can find one.

entp + esfj = havoc

[MysticSonic]

I have two friends, one an ENTp and one an ESFj and they're "best buds."

[xiuxiu]

i know a female esfj/entp pair, the esfj being my ex. they were hilarious together. esfj girls have a delicious sense of humor, my ex is one of the funniest people i know.

[Angel von Himmel]

Man, that just motivates me harder! She can be my girlfriend AND accomplise! Think of all the crazy stuff we can do!

[xiuxiu]

that's basically 100% percent accurate

[Park]

...but then do you feel frustrated with yourself for it? And then angry for feeling frustrated? And then guilty for caring so much? And then depressed for the whole mess? And then guilty for feeling depressed? And then frustrated for for feeling guilty? LOL

ah, I always go thru those endless thought cycles...

[discojoe]

Rmc, can you shed some light on how it went down, without revealing personal details?

[schrödinger's cat]

No, get yourself a nice little ISFp therapist, RMcNew.

Are there any ISFp therapists? I wonder what ISFp therapy would look like. If the ISFps I know were therapists, they'd listen sympathetically and then say: "You worry too much. I like you; you're entertaining. You're doing just fine. Everything's going to be alright. Let's go have a pizza. Did you ever try that marvellous little restaurant close to the town hall? Their chianti is superb."

[Expat]

i know an esfj/entp couple. the benefits are obvious so i will focus on the downsides. first off they are always busy and on the go and this seems to lead to stress after awhile because neither is getting function #5 up to where it needs to be. the entp becomes too stimulized with Fe sometimes and consequently acts like a chick at times.

overall the esfj seems to be better off in terms of personal growth (she is more mentally stable etc) but she can be overly clingy at times.

You just described the marriage of my brother (ENTp) and his wife (ESfj).

[diamond]

Oh, God, a supervisor therapist ! Not good, not good.
*Smacks Blaze*
The idea is to make RMcNew feel better, not to crush his self confidence into tiny little shards and then inject them into his bottom!

No, get yourself a nice little ISFp therapist, RMcNew. You deserve it :wink: .

I happen to know some very wonderful infj counselors, DL. Supervision relations are GOOD when you are using them for personal growth. Plus you can safely learn how to deal with your supervisor by dealing with your therapist!

[diamond]

Pedro. What's your beef with entps??

[Darklord]

Blaze, they might be Ok in some special cases, but it seems that they would quickly turn into the PoLR Express.