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    Most socionics crap here on the forum tends to be of the high-flying hugely abstract kind of wacko stuff that either is useful or isn't but the two varieties are extremely difficult to differentiate. As it happens, we have quite a few user accounts here by now and we have a what's my type forum that is enormous. So that's a resource. I expect it would be at this time possible to start datamining through that resource, to start picking through it and looking for clusters.

    See, various people of the same personality type still have very different attitudes towards themselves and others, different philosophies etc. And not all of it is possible to explain through subtypes. But it's likely that there are clusters. Various individuals who have stumbled on similar solutions to their life problems.

    While the use of functions changes constantly, there are also ... centers of oscillation, states that are sort of more stable than others, and various life values, philosophies etc tend to develop around these states. So this whole thing might be possible to reverse-engineer into advanced knowledge of funtions, maybe.

    Anyway, this would be an enormous project. And actually claiming to be able to finish it would be insane. I have nowhere near the amount of resources to finish that kind of a thing. But wouldn't it be cool if someone did? Anyway, I'm requesting input on whether someone would like to see more of the kind of crap I did with "the apprentice thread", just in a potentially larger scale and centering on the what's my type threads?
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    Do you, by chance, live in the nearbies of Malmo-Gotenborg? (I'm asking because, I'm going to Copenhagen for 5 months, so if you lived near there we may meet for a beer, given that I'm surely going to explore southern sweden)
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    Cool Smilingeyes, glad there's a sort of rudder taking you in the right direction - or rather than the "right" direction, a direction which is favourable to you etc....

    I keep telling myself that if I work enough, then i'll be able to get myself into a position where I can sit back and relax without having to worry or have too much drive, and this way I can spend time doing the enjoyable things like family or driving some overly expensive vehicle in New Zealand.

    Oh, I do recommend New Zealand over Scotland, we've got similar scenery here, but, you know, the weathers crap - but - living in a nice big cosy house, it looks pretty good from the inside through the window...

    Oh, and re the feeling tired thing, i've felt sort of like that a bit recently, I've told myself it's my bodies way of giving me some initial notice to make good my security in life, maybe i'll become old and boring, but i'll laugh at me being like that too, lol...

    Oh, and re the socionic thing (and not necessarily just that), as usual, you speak a fair amount of sense imo.

    Edit: not much else to say, i'll keep my eye on your column from time to time incase you pop up again.
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    Cheers, just a random update on my column. Nice to see this place is still going on. Maintains a bit of constancy and faith in the world.

    I just moved to the capital and expect to finish my surgery training in the next couple of years. Sadly had to leave my gf due to the move. Still hoping she'll join me later, but who knows.

    Restarted doing research. More fun brain imaging equipment lying around than I can shake a stick at.

    On socionics front I'm still trying to get better at quick typing. I found a new hobby of typing CBS Survivor participants. I saw there were some threads but rather incomplete ones or if there was a complete one, I didn't find it. Anyway, I might or might not surprise you people with another catalogue thread some time. For fun. To reiterate, for fun, not doing this intensely (checking and rechecking etc.)

    That's all methinks. Just touching base. Have a good one y'all.

    Here's a collection of some of my guesses
    Winners:
    Richard Hatch Borneo ENTJ (really obvious)
    Tina Wesson Australia INFj
    Ethan Zohn Africa ENFp
    Vecepia Towery Marquesas INTj
    Brian Heidik Thailand ENTj
    Jenna Morasca Amazon ISTp
    Sandra Diaz-Twine Pearl Islands ESTp
    Chris Daugherty Vanuatu ENTp
    Tom Westman Palau ISTp
    Danni Boatwright Guatemala INFj
    Aras Baskauskas Panama ISFp
    Yul Kwon Cook islands INTj
    Earl Cole Fiji ESTj
    Todd Herzog China ENTp
    Robert "Bob" Crowley Gabon ESTj
    James "J.T." Thomas, Tocantins ISFj
    Natalie White Samoa INFj

    Amber Brkich All-stars INFp
    Parvati Shallow Micronesia INFp

    Other contestants (for obvious reasons):
    Russell Hantz Samoa ESTj-Te
    Benjamin "Coach" Wade Tocantins ENFj-Fe
    Ace Gordon g Gabon ENTj-Ni
    Andria (Dre) "Dreamz" Herd Fiji ESFj-Si
    Jonathan Penner Cook Islands ENTj-Ni
    Ian Rosenberger Palau ESFj
    Twila Tanner Vanuatu ESTj-Te
    Rupert Boneham Pearl Islands ESTj-Si
    Rob Cesternino Amazon ENTj
    Susan "Sue" Hawk Borneo ESTj-Te
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    Cheers, just a random update on my column. Nice to see this place is still going on. Maintains a bit of constancy and faith in the world.

    I just moved to the capital and expect to finish my surgery training in the next couple of years. Sadly had to leave my gf due to the move. Still hoping she'll join me later, but who knows.

    Restarted doing research. More fun brain imaging equipment lying around than I can shake a stick at.

    On socionics front I'm still trying to get better at quick typing. I found a new hobby of typing CBS Survivor participants. I saw there were some threads but rather incomplete ones or if there was a complete one, I didn't find it. Anyway, I might or might not surprise you people with another catalogue thread some time. For fun. To reiterate, for fun, not doing this intensely (checking and rechecking etc.)

    That's all methinks. Just touching base. Have a good one y'all.

    Here's a collection of some of my guesses
    Winners:
    Richard Hatch Borneo ENTJ (really obvious)
    Tina Wesson Australia (No immediate hunch, would have to rewatch)
    Ethan Zohn Africa ENFp
    Vecepia Towery Marquesas INTj
    Brian Heidik Thailand ENTj
    Jenna Morasca Amazon ISTp
    Sandra Diaz-Twine Pearl Islands ESTp
    Chris Daugherty Vanuatu ENTp
    Tom Westman Palau ISFp
    Danni BoatwrightS INFp
    Yul Kwon Cook islands INTj
    Earl Cole Fiji ESTj
    Todd Herzog China ENTp
    Robert "Bob" Crowley Gabon INTp
    James "J.T." Thomas, Tocantins ISTj
    Natalie White Samoa ESFp

    Amber Brkich All-stars INFp
    Parvati Shallow Micronesia INFj

    Other contestants (for obvious reasons):
    Russell Hantz Samoa ESTj-Te
    Benjamin "Coach" Wade Tocantins ENFj-Fe
    Ace Gordon g Gabon ENTj-Ni
    Andria (Dre) "Dreamz" Herd Fiji ESFj-Si
    Jonathan Penner Cook Islands ENTj-Ni
    Ian Rosenberger Palau ESFj
    Twila Tanner Vanuatu ESTj-Te
    Rupert Boneham Pearl Islands ESTj-Si
    Rob Cesternino Amazon ENTj
    Susan "Sue" Hawk Borneo ESTj-Te

    Are these people in sports? If yes then N's can not compete with S's; we arn't quick enough, strong enough, or fast enough.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Are these people in sports? If yes then N's can not compete with S's; we arn't quick enough, strong enough, or fast enough.
    Some of them are involved with sports. Both Benjamin Wade and Ethan Zohn are intuitives who are involved with soccer. But mostly these people are involved with the social sport of "Survivor" reality game show.
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    Oh my, I wonder how this will turn out.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    hi, you're back! any chance you'd pick sth that's not such bad tv..? no offense meant, i just can't watch reality shows. cheers

    Uh, well, the only meaningful tv material to analyze is stuff without a script, so what's left? Analyzing sports? Talk shows? Televized cabinet sessions? Doesn't seem as good. The very core of the Survivor show is about forming social relationships, alliances, trust and breaking them. That, if anything, is great material for socionics analysis.

    I can't really agree on it being bad tv either. 20 seasons in the US, syndicated and sold as a format to who knows how many countries. Voted "the most influential show of the 2000 decennium" (or something like that), with massive audiences (at least in the beginning), creating a new tv genre. That's a success story. That's good tv in my book. But I agree that as entertainment, it's kind of uninteresting and I find it almost impossible to watch an entire episode (watching the challenges is particularly boring.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post

    See, various people of the same personality type still have very different attitudes towards themselves and others, different philosophies etc. And not all of it is possible to explain through subtypes. But it's likely that there are clusters. Various individuals who have stumbled on similar solutions to their life problems.

    While the use of functions changes constantly, there are also ... centers of oscillation, states that are sort of more stable than others, and various life values, philosophies etc tend to develop around these states. So this whole thing might be possible to reverse-engineer into advanced knowledge of funtions, maybe.
    I have noticed this cluster type thing you are talking about but have not been able to come up with a clear understanding of it.. lately I have been thinking it may just be some enneagram type, instinctual stacking and health level combo.. not sure though. I would like to look into it more but I wouldnt want to be the one to go weeding through all the threads of what's my type. I'll read it if you decide to do it cause I think its an intersting idea.
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    As a general comment. I'm feeling disappointed withthe cluster thread approach and I'm also feeling down by the interruption which among other things stopped me from controlling my own messages in those threads.

    I will rethink my approach.

    Thank you for everyone's contributions on those threads. I will try to return to the issue later and make sure your effort wasn't wasted.
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    Yeah, I kinda thought the interruption(s) would put you off. But, the start of the project had kind of an awkward feel to it anyway, so maybe this is for the best.

    Is your rethink going to be short or take some time? If it's a long rethink, do you want to do something in the meantime?
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    I have recently become very happy. If this continues there's a decent chance I will leave this forum for good. If this comes to pass, I will first give an account of the circumstances, or as much as I feel it's in my rights to reveal. The main reason I'm posting this though, is that the reason I am happy has a lot to do with socionics having made my life better. That is all. God bless you all.
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    I would like for you to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeAnte View Post
    I would like for you to stay.
    But do what you think is best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    I have recently become very happy. If this continues there's a decent chance I will leave this forum for good. If this comes to pass, I will first give an account of the circumstances, or as much as I feel it's in my rights to reveal. The main reason I'm posting this though, is that the reason I am happy has a lot to do with socionics having made my life better. That is all. God bless you all.
    Nice. Though, I'm afraid you gave out enough information to know exactly why you are leaving...

    Facts:
    1. Recently happy.
    2. Will leave the forum for good.
    3. Socionics made your life better.

    Based on facts 1 and 3, a probable reason is that you're getting married to an INFj. Fact 2 is implying that you might not have access to the internet, therefore your fiancée is from Cambodia, or some remote location where you will not have internet.

    An alternative is that you are relocating to 3rd world country as a medical practitioner to people with low resources, where there is no internet. However, fact 3 doesn't seem to fit, so this is not very probable.

    So yes, you are marrying an INFj from Cambodia. This was too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sereno View Post
    Nice. Though, I'm afraid you gave out enough information to know exactly why you are leaving...

    Facts:
    1. Recently happy.
    2. Will leave the forum for good.
    3. Socionics made your life better.

    Based on facts 1 and 3, a probable reason is that you're getting married to an INFj. Fact 2 is implying that you might not have access to the internet, therefore your fiancée is from Cambodia, or some remote location where you will not have internet.

    An alternative is that you are relocating to 3rd world country as a medical practitioner to people with low resources, where there is no internet. However, fact 3 doesn't seem to fit, so this is not very probable.

    So yes, you are marrying an INFj from Cambodia. This was too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    I have recently become very happy. If this continues there's a decent chance I will leave this forum for good. If this comes to pass, I will first give an account of the circumstances, or as much as I feel it's in my rights to reveal. The main reason I'm posting this though, is that the reason I am happy has a lot to do with socionics having made my life better. That is all. God bless you all.
    Good luck to you and thanks for all the help, will miss your posts .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssmall View Post
    Good luck to you and thanks for all the help, will miss your posts .
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    Once I laid eyes upon Smilexian socionics, I knew I had found "the one," and I've always wondered what it would be like to get married on the first date. However, I think I should come clean about something Smiley... The truth is that I am a man, and Sirena who is my twin sister, was going to the altar in my stead... I know this must come as a shock, but it's the truth. All of it was a plot to steal your money, and I am deeply sorry... You must understand that we needed the money. Also, don't ask how we came to have enough money to use the internet, learn English, and buy the ticket to come to the US... I hope there are no hard feelings. Since I feel bad about all this, I can give you discounts on my INFj Cambodian hoes business. Will this do?
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