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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I've wondered that, too.

    And that brings up a related question that I've had for awhile but never either remembered to ask or had the right opportunity: Is type-change inevitable, particularly when one is grown and in a relatively stable environment? Of course there is the minor temporary switching back and forth.

    Hm, that doesn't fully express my question, but it'll have to do for now.
    I have no idea. I'm sorry. I've seen a lot of people who change a lot and often. I've also seen a lot of people who are very stable. I haven't seen any pattern. I think it's likely that it is a matter that is affected by circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    I have no idea. I'm sorry. I've seen a lot of people who change a lot and often. I've also seen a lot of people who are very stable. I haven't seen any pattern. I think it's likely that it is a matter that is affected by circumstances.
    Hm, ok. Thanks.
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    Most socionics crap here on the forum tends to be of the high-flying hugely abstract kind of wacko stuff that either is useful or isn't but the two varieties are extremely difficult to differentiate. As it happens, we have quite a few user accounts here by now and we have a what's my type forum that is enormous. So that's a resource. I expect it would be at this time possible to start datamining through that resource, to start picking through it and looking for clusters.

    See, various people of the same personality type still have very different attitudes towards themselves and others, different philosophies etc. And not all of it is possible to explain through subtypes. But it's likely that there are clusters. Various individuals who have stumbled on similar solutions to their life problems.

    While the use of functions changes constantly, there are also ... centers of oscillation, states that are sort of more stable than others, and various life values, philosophies etc tend to develop around these states. So this whole thing might be possible to reverse-engineer into advanced knowledge of funtions, maybe.

    Anyway, this would be an enormous project. And actually claiming to be able to finish it would be insane. I have nowhere near the amount of resources to finish that kind of a thing. But wouldn't it be cool if someone did? Anyway, I'm requesting input on whether someone would like to see more of the kind of crap I did with "the apprentice thread", just in a potentially larger scale and centering on the what's my type threads?
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    Do you, by chance, live in the nearbies of Malmo-Gotenborg? (I'm asking because, I'm going to Copenhagen for 5 months, so if you lived near there we may meet for a beer, given that I'm surely going to explore southern sweden)
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    Cool Smilingeyes, glad there's a sort of rudder taking you in the right direction - or rather than the "right" direction, a direction which is favourable to you etc....

    I keep telling myself that if I work enough, then i'll be able to get myself into a position where I can sit back and relax without having to worry or have too much drive, and this way I can spend time doing the enjoyable things like family or driving some overly expensive vehicle in New Zealand.

    Oh, I do recommend New Zealand over Scotland, we've got similar scenery here, but, you know, the weathers crap - but - living in a nice big cosy house, it looks pretty good from the inside through the window...

    Oh, and re the feeling tired thing, i've felt sort of like that a bit recently, I've told myself it's my bodies way of giving me some initial notice to make good my security in life, maybe i'll become old and boring, but i'll laugh at me being like that too, lol...

    Oh, and re the socionic thing (and not necessarily just that), as usual, you speak a fair amount of sense imo.

    Edit: not much else to say, i'll keep my eye on your column from time to time incase you pop up again.
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    Cheers, just a random update on my column. Nice to see this place is still going on. Maintains a bit of constancy and faith in the world.

    I just moved to the capital and expect to finish my surgery training in the next couple of years. Sadly had to leave my gf due to the move. Still hoping she'll join me later, but who knows.

    Restarted doing research. More fun brain imaging equipment lying around than I can shake a stick at.

    On socionics front I'm still trying to get better at quick typing. I found a new hobby of typing CBS Survivor participants. I saw there were some threads but rather incomplete ones or if there was a complete one, I didn't find it. Anyway, I might or might not surprise you people with another catalogue thread some time. For fun. To reiterate, for fun, not doing this intensely (checking and rechecking etc.)

    That's all methinks. Just touching base. Have a good one y'all.

    Here's a collection of some of my guesses
    Winners:
    Richard Hatch Borneo ENTJ (really obvious)
    Tina Wesson Australia INFj
    Ethan Zohn Africa ENFp
    Vecepia Towery Marquesas INTj
    Brian Heidik Thailand ENTj
    Jenna Morasca Amazon ISTp
    Sandra Diaz-Twine Pearl Islands ESTp
    Chris Daugherty Vanuatu ENTp
    Tom Westman Palau ISTp
    Danni Boatwright Guatemala INFj
    Aras Baskauskas Panama ISFp
    Yul Kwon Cook islands INTj
    Earl Cole Fiji ESTj
    Todd Herzog China ENTp
    Robert "Bob" Crowley Gabon ESTj
    James "J.T." Thomas, Tocantins ISFj
    Natalie White Samoa INFj

    Amber Brkich All-stars INFp
    Parvati Shallow Micronesia INFp

    Other contestants (for obvious reasons):
    Russell Hantz Samoa ESTj-Te
    Benjamin "Coach" Wade Tocantins ENFj-Fe
    Ace Gordon g Gabon ENTj-Ni
    Andria (Dre) "Dreamz" Herd Fiji ESFj-Si
    Jonathan Penner Cook Islands ENTj-Ni
    Ian Rosenberger Palau ESFj
    Twila Tanner Vanuatu ESTj-Te
    Rupert Boneham Pearl Islands ESTj-Si
    Rob Cesternino Amazon ENTj
    Susan "Sue" Hawk Borneo ESTj-Te
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post
    Cheers, just a random update on my column. Nice to see this place is still going on. Maintains a bit of constancy and faith in the world.

    I just moved to the capital and expect to finish my surgery training in the next couple of years. Sadly had to leave my gf due to the move. Still hoping she'll join me later, but who knows.

    Restarted doing research. More fun brain imaging equipment lying around than I can shake a stick at.

    On socionics front I'm still trying to get better at quick typing. I found a new hobby of typing CBS Survivor participants. I saw there were some threads but rather incomplete ones or if there was a complete one, I didn't find it. Anyway, I might or might not surprise you people with another catalogue thread some time. For fun. To reiterate, for fun, not doing this intensely (checking and rechecking etc.)

    That's all methinks. Just touching base. Have a good one y'all.

    Here's a collection of some of my guesses
    Winners:
    Richard Hatch Borneo ENTJ (really obvious)
    Tina Wesson Australia (No immediate hunch, would have to rewatch)
    Ethan Zohn Africa ENFp
    Vecepia Towery Marquesas INTj
    Brian Heidik Thailand ENTj
    Jenna Morasca Amazon ISTp
    Sandra Diaz-Twine Pearl Islands ESTp
    Chris Daugherty Vanuatu ENTp
    Tom Westman Palau ISFp
    Danni BoatwrightS INFp
    Yul Kwon Cook islands INTj
    Earl Cole Fiji ESTj
    Todd Herzog China ENTp
    Robert "Bob" Crowley Gabon INTp
    James "J.T." Thomas, Tocantins ISTj
    Natalie White Samoa ESFp

    Amber Brkich All-stars INFp
    Parvati Shallow Micronesia INFj

    Other contestants (for obvious reasons):
    Russell Hantz Samoa ESTj-Te
    Benjamin "Coach" Wade Tocantins ENFj-Fe
    Ace Gordon g Gabon ENTj-Ni
    Andria (Dre) "Dreamz" Herd Fiji ESFj-Si
    Jonathan Penner Cook Islands ENTj-Ni
    Ian Rosenberger Palau ESFj
    Twila Tanner Vanuatu ESTj-Te
    Rupert Boneham Pearl Islands ESTj-Si
    Rob Cesternino Amazon ENTj
    Susan "Sue" Hawk Borneo ESTj-Te

    Are these people in sports? If yes then N's can not compete with S's; we arn't quick enough, strong enough, or fast enough.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilingeyes View Post

    See, various people of the same personality type still have very different attitudes towards themselves and others, different philosophies etc. And not all of it is possible to explain through subtypes. But it's likely that there are clusters. Various individuals who have stumbled on similar solutions to their life problems.

    While the use of functions changes constantly, there are also ... centers of oscillation, states that are sort of more stable than others, and various life values, philosophies etc tend to develop around these states. So this whole thing might be possible to reverse-engineer into advanced knowledge of funtions, maybe.
    I have noticed this cluster type thing you are talking about but have not been able to come up with a clear understanding of it.. lately I have been thinking it may just be some enneagram type, instinctual stacking and health level combo.. not sure though. I would like to look into it more but I wouldnt want to be the one to go weeding through all the threads of what's my type. I'll read it if you decide to do it cause I think its an intersting idea.
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    As a general comment. I'm feeling disappointed withthe cluster thread approach and I'm also feeling down by the interruption which among other things stopped me from controlling my own messages in those threads.

    I will rethink my approach.

    Thank you for everyone's contributions on those threads. I will try to return to the issue later and make sure your effort wasn't wasted.
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    Yeah, I kinda thought the interruption(s) would put you off. But, the start of the project had kind of an awkward feel to it anyway, so maybe this is for the best.

    Is your rethink going to be short or take some time? If it's a long rethink, do you want to do something in the meantime?
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    I have recently become very happy. If this continues there's a decent chance I will leave this forum for good. If this comes to pass, I will first give an account of the circumstances, or as much as I feel it's in my rights to reveal. The main reason I'm posting this though, is that the reason I am happy has a lot to do with socionics having made my life better. That is all. God bless you all.
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