"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
I think there is some validity to the literal interpretation of the statement. I almost purposefully dress one level below what I should be wearing every day during the winter (e.g., wearing just a t-shirt when I should be wearing at least a jacket). For some reason, it's oddly satisfying, maybe because it gives me momentary control over my mobilizing function? Who knows.
sociotype.com
LII
Could we discuss why? In my mind it's a question of dressing modestly vs. keeping cool, and there isn't much competition between those. What other variables do you see?
Now, if you're mad about the staring at girls in long pants to reward them for wearing long pants, I'll agree that was ridiculous; not everything I've done in the past was good. Fortunately, I don't think anyone even noticed.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Coming from a very non-religious, socially liberal perspective, I find the idea that a girl wearing shorts is being immodest in a way that is _wrong_ to be relatively repulsive and socially backwards. I understand that you are not outright saying it is wrong, but obviously your contention with the immodest is precipitated by some sort of thought that the act itself is in someway wrong, and if you don't mind, I feel myself at the liberty to infer that you are asserting that what they are doing is "sinful" in some manner, or at the very least not conducive to holy thoughts of your own. I mean, if you are religious and authentically feel compelled toward the religion you are compelled to, you are without a doubt justified in believing as you do and feeling that way about shorts in general. You've done nothing wrong(a word of contention here I understand, but of course this is from my secular perspective), but just the very thought of supporting that manner of thinking is, again, repulsive to me.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
To be honest, this is not a tenet of my religion (I thought of it myself), and for that reason I would not go so far as to say that any woman is sinning by wearing shorts. I simply see wearing shorts as a bad practice, like many others that are so prevalent that there is no use in fighting them.
You've come very close to the truth in this post, but I don't see the issue of shorts as something worth fighting over. Call it a personality quirk. (or perhaps an judgement, defended with all the vigor of the role function... )
Thank you for explaining yourself. I am sorry that I have angered you; I truly...
Um... In typing this post, I am blocked at every turn by the sight of in my post. I simply can't go on while simultaneously throwing my type into question and using Socionics to make decisions. I'm stopping here.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
SLAM ON THE BREAKS.
I think my brain just imploded all over this thread. Four times. I...don't even know where to start.
ILE
7w8 so/sp
Very busy with work. Only kind of around.
Women shouldn't wear shorts???
this thread illustrates to me why I'm not an LII.
ILE-Ti
6w7 sx/sp (low level of confidence)
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Integrity is not to be taken without question. It must be demonstrated.
Regarding the topic of the post, it is meant metaphorically. INTJs have a certain distrust for those who emphasize gamma Te. And nothing makes them madder than seeing watered down Fe courtesy of Te. When asked to abide by this, they will do an Si check and if it turns out negative or even languishing, they will get upset and deeply determined to rebel against the present social situation (held in place by Te's compulsory might). So what can ENTJ do in this case? They can force others to act against the INTJ, or face becoming jobless and poor. People talk about Se being the great villain to INTJ, but ESTP actually has a certain respect for INTJ. It's ENTJ who the INTJ must watch out for.
Last edited by tcaudilllg; 02-15-2012 at 10:37 AM.
Wow, a counter to an ancient post by me! As much as I agree with your statement in principle, I think it's irrelevant in the context of the statement you're quoting. The person I was replying to had just refused to defend his position; I was saying don't make the claim if you're not willing to defend it. In other words, the burden of proof was on him.
Hmm, I suppose I was implying that my integrity was unassailable, which makes your statement slightly relevant. Not very much, though.
LII-Ne
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Johari
Yeah I didn't look at the date before replying. Sorry about that.