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    Default Full type and subtype descriptions by Meged and Ovcharov

    Intuitive- logical ekstravert: INNOVATOR
    Has a somewhat scattered, pensive, stray view at times it it becomes attentive, frankly studying man or details of his clothing, which surround objects, interior apartment and so forth now and then OF ILE fills to itself seriousness, importance or looks into the support, thinking about by something its.

    The mimicry of face in ILE little changes with the conversation. The person expresses shyness, feeling of awkwardness by time. It frequently smiles inadequately at situation, trying to arrange to itself collocutor. This smile seems cordial, but not by not very natural. The manners of behavior are democratic, are free, now and then somewhat pert. He tries to appear unconstrained, it can sit after being pulled down.
    Motions frequently raskoordinirovannye, acted unsure. It seems that ILE he does not know, where to place hands, leans to something, although for this there is no need. It is round-shouldered or it walks only by the bent elbows, it can superfluously swing by hands.

    INVENTOR
    Intuitive subtype can produce the impression suspended, flying in the clouds, childlishly naive person. It is sociable, easily it enters into the conversation. Much reads, it is very inquisitive and it willingly discusses the obtained information with those surrounding, it is interested in their opinion. Its apparent shyness and shyness are combined with the imperturbability and the obstinacy, when it starts to defend its point of view. It loves to discuss, but rarely it leads to dispute would ending by conflict. It frequently smiles at those surrounding, even if they do not give to this of occasion. With the identical smile he tells about the ridiculous and about the serious. He tries to be amiable with all and is not offended to the observations. In its occupations it is patient and, in spite of a certain sparseness and forgetfulness, then that greatly it interests it, it leads to the end. Gestures and speech either are retarded or they are accelerated. Poses are unconstrained, view scattered, defocused. Gait and motions are weakened, they seem acted unsure or weakwilled.

    FINDER
    Logical subtype tries to produce the impression of serious person. It can be sharp, at times even unceremonious. It is confident in itself, he says rapidly, usually in categorical tone. It is superfluously categorical in its judgments, it has a tendency to tie by others its opinion. It sometimes seems energetic and self-confident. It is impatient and always it cannot listen collocutor to the end. He frequently is fascinated by something new, attempts to find to it practical embodiment. It actively and energetically defends its interests. In this case it can flare up and offend man, but, after noting this, he tries to correct position. It is very proud and it can be insulted because of the trifle, talk roughnesses, and it will be again affable and benevolent after a certain time. It is not predicted and contrasting in its behavior. View - first scattered, then testing, tenacious. The gait and the gestures sweeping, confident, but are badly coordinated. Poses free, flattened. It easily draws together distance, it can embrace, kiss collocutor.

    Sensory- ethical introvert: MEDIATOR

    Usually SEI they have the soft benevolent view, variable and expressive; first quick, carefully is rapid entire noticing, first now and then not blinking, attentive, then suddenly playful and sly. This view does not penetrate deeply, then the internal emotional state of man reflects well.
    The mimicry of face is moderately living, the smile cordial, natural, which corresponds to situation and mood, sometimes somewhat coquettish. Face frequently rounded, eyes and mouth with the conversation can resemble letter "o". The large features of face are softened by the expression of softness and kindness.
    The manners of the behavior OF SEI are modest and elegant, although at times unexpectedly acquire the nuance of the familiarity, which is expressed first in the affectionate touchs to the collocutor, then in the whipping gestures. There is a tendency toward the completeness. It dresses BY SEI with the taste, it loves accessories. Motions confident, unconstrained, flattened, the noses of feet with walking frequently dilute to the sides.

    HEDONIST
    Sensory subtype seems calm and soft in the contact of people. Loves rest and comfort. Khozyaystvenen is practical. He tries to do everything with the refined taste. It is frequently occupied as the hobby by any artistic distributions. It is benevolent, tactful and nenavyazchiv, by its presence it pacifies others. He tries to sympathize, soak by council. It loves to speak about its sensations, it attentively questions collocutor about his matters. It is sluggish in the behavior and it is leisurely in the conversation, it slightly extends words, with difficulty it sometimes formulates thoughts. Even if it suffers tongue twister, it does not hurry with the end of conversation. It can for long and thoroughly speak about one and the same. Constantly confidence it smiles, it nods by head into the sign of support. It has lazy, smooth motions, refined, elegant gestures. It walks only waddle, or by "duck" gait. Nedemonstrativen, but its clothing and accessories sometimes attract attention of those surrounding.

    GARMONIZATOR
    Ethical subtype - living, emotional and free in the contact of people. Easily draws together distance in the contact, willingly the beret of collocutor for the hand, he speaks compliments. Its freedom bears the nuance of familiarity. Shyness can be changed by observations in the witty form. Irony and "podkalyvaniya" easily pass in the serious and valid tone. Frequently it jokes and it speaks even unpleasant things with smile in order not to offend man. Predupreditelen is thoughtful.
    It is impatient and restless. Times it is quick tempered, but is easily appeased nezlopamyaten. It is usually optimistic, oars and fervid. It loves to obtain and to provide pleasures. It frequently makes to people compliments and render different services. It knows how to raise mood, to encourage. It seems by serene person, since it usually hides its experiences from the strangers. He speaks rapidly, confidently, now and then categorically, with imperative intonations. View in it rapid, entire noticing, at times "shooting", now and then significant. The motions are confident, are elegant, but a little irregular.

    Logico- intuitive introvert: ANALYST

    The view OF LEAHS is pensive, is cold, is removed remove. When it stops on the collocutor, it becomes fixed, attentive. It can look into the support, to izuchayushche without blinking. The expression rarely changes during the contact, becoming dreamy or soft, angry or merry, but more frequent - it remains impenetrable and poorly expressed.
    It smiles AT LEAH rarely and only on the specific occasion, usually it is sufficiently restrained. Sometimes, desiring to seem amiable, it can curvedly or somehow unnaturally smile. Rarely it laughs properly and its laughter is uncommon - it is convulsive, constrained or with the squeak. The features of face frequently are characteristic, with the developed superciliary arcs, by the separating nose or by obstinate chin. Face usually stores impassive expression. Only rarely strong emotions can change the color of the skin or give luster to eyes.
    Gait in LEAH usually light, carriage straight line, but it is possible to note constraint in the arms or light stooped posture. Gestures acted unsure, sluggish, scattered, careful. Frequently it is thin, asketichnogo form. The depressed emotions frequently are expressed in the involuntary nervous gestures. It is held with all equally correctly, but it is dry, it holds distance and does not love it to draw together.

    SYSTEMIZER
    Logical subtype is usually calm, serious and restrained. It is sufficiently categorical, obstinate and even categorical in the judgments. When the theme of its conversation does not interest, it is taciturn and severe, it looks sullenly into the support at the collocutor. Its cold penetrating view is difficult to maintain. If collocutor behaves is very validly, it can place him on the place. It knows how clearly and laconically, without the excess emotions to express its thought, does not love long discussions. Much time conducts in the reflections, analyzing and comparing different phenomena, numbers and facts. The impression of volitional person is produced. Lips are tightly compressed, the speech clear, jerky, but voice is not rich in nuances. Is held exactly, correctly, bezemotsional'no. However, the mimicry of face, which usually thickened, reflects internal emotions by the unexpected impulsive motions of muscles.

    RESEARCHER
    Intuitive subtype appears somewhat uncertain and even soft in the contact of people. It is not always categorical in the statements, but is sufficiently obstinate beskompromissen in its behavior. It can keep silent and restrain from the discussion, but its opinion it will not change. Its concealed emotionalism is manifested at the moment of extreme nervous tension in the intonations of voice and the impulsive gestures. In the conversation it is restrained, attentive, he tries to arrange to itself collocutor, giving advice and impressing by his knowledge and conclusions. In such cases its serious view softens, in the voice the benevolence appears. It can draw together distance in the contact; however, to the known limit. The gait is calm, is synchronous, is noticeable zazhatost' in the arms. Motions, on the contrary, are a little retarded and neuverenny. Poses forged, gestures - meager and restrained, rarely unconsciously impulsive, badly coordinated.

    Ethics- sensory ekstravert: COMMUNICATOR

    ESE distinguishes rapid, tenacious view, attentive and observant, but not very expressive. During the conversation it can affably and interestedly to look into the eyes to collocutor and to at the same time cast looks all around, checking external situation. In the minutes of emotional excitation the eyes become nonblinking, view acquires significance.
    Mimicry in ESE is living, but is sufficiently monotonous. Smile appears rapidly and directly, under the effect of the thoughts, emotions or the reactions of collocutor. Frequently it serves the purpose to raise mood as other and is is very infectious.
    Gestures are irregular, are impulsive, frequently impatient. The gait is rapid, is chased. Carriage usually is ordered. ESE - is energetic, zhizneradosten, it is fussy. It is cordial, with a feeling of humor and the ease in the contact, this person rapidly becomes the soul of company.
    He tries to please itself by all, it dresses with the taste.

    POPULARIZER
    Ethical subtype is amiable and courteous, but it is obstinate and intractable in the questions significant for it. Because of this it can manifest superfluous persistence. It is inclined to lead everything to the end. To it it is difficult to in time stop, about which subsequently it can be sorry. He tries to be serious, restrained and polite in the contact, but it can render prolonged emotional pressing on those, who enter, from his point of view, it is incorrect. It loves to take collocutor for the hand, to touch his clothing. It knows how to prepare and to assume guests, but makes this not frequently, since more greatly it is absorbed by social activities. It loves to make gifts close one and knows how to find the suitable occasions for this. It dresses with the taste, but it is relatively modest. Gait is rapid, only jumping. More frequently it is thin, a little angular. Face can express dissatisfaction and disturbance, that are changed by radiant smile.

    GUARDIAN
    Sensory subtype is energetic, efficient and practical. It is emotional and sufficiently straight-line, but it is responsive and benevolent to the people it knows how to correct impression from its sharp statements. It is confident in itself, it is daring and skillful in the skill to be pleased. It is coquettish and pleasant, the intimate atmosphere in the contact is created. It is affectionate, frequently it embraces and forces against itself those, who to it are likable. It is attentive to the people is very thoughtful and obliging, but it can easily poskandalit', if something does not please itself it. In it sharp uvula, after the word into the pocket does not climb. The speech, as a rule, rapid, emotional, it willingly makes compliments, sometimes with the quip. It is fussy and restless, but it knows how interesting and gaily to rest. Epicure, knows how to tastefully prepare, gostepriimen. Mimicry is living, motion rapid and elegant. Somewhat rounded shapes of body frequently has. Dresses izyskanno, also, with charm, it loves expensive things, it occurs wasteful.

    Ethics- intuitive ekstravert: TEACHER
    This is the most contradictory and most varied type of personality both internally and outwardly.
    Most frequently variable, but not running, but a somewhat scattered view of eye they are expressive in Eie: they transfer first internal emotional incandescence, then is melancholy. Usually these emotions are not so much caused by real state of affairs, as they speak about the increased sensitiveness Eie.
    Mimicry is also very diverse, obedient situation and that role, which is diverted Eie in this situation. This tuning of emotions occurs naturally and not always prednamerenno. Some representatives of this type have alarming, nervous smile, but majority smile rarely, preferring to preserve the serious expression of face.
    The gait Eie, as a rule, elegant, clear, smooth, although a certain fixedness of motions is noticeable. Manners and poses are frequently they are spectacular, aristokratichny, and the gestures of produmanny, but regardless of the fact, they are modest or izyskanny, by them frequently does not be sufficient naturalness.

    EDUCATOR
    Ethical subtype tries to behave according to the rules of a good tone. This is - internally emotional, but usually modest and restrained in the expression of his feelings person. It is touchy even we wound, in the soul it frequently survives dramatic emotions, but with the strangers it is held in control and does not give to them will. To it it is difficult properly to be weakened, it is internally stressed, we wound and it is sufficiently proud. It has many complexes, from which it frequently suffers, but in this case outwardly it is proud and inaccessible. It is usually reserved, careful, it thinks over everything in advance. Are somewhat acted unsure of itself, but it is patient and persistent, it knows how to attain its purposes. It is very exacting to that so that the surrounding soblyudali ethical standards of behavior, and frequently it cannot be held from the observations and the councils, if it sees that people enter, from its point of view, it is incorrect. The rapid change of mood is characteristic of it. First is cold- haughty, obstinate and demanding, then soft, sincere, courteous and even defenseless. Motions smooth, are sometimes emphasized demonstrative. It dresses modestly, also, with the taste, and if it wants, it can appear very effectively.

    ARTIST
    Intuitive subtype - original creative personality, extravagant and not predicted. It is very inquisitive and talkative. It is sufficiently emotional, we wound vpechatlitelen. It is internally stressed, frequent doubts and fluctuations are experienced, because of what it is sufficiently variable in its solutions. It occurs quick tempered and cuttings. Very artistichen, is emotional raskreposhchen, easily and freely are expressed its feelings. The mood of others feels well and it skillfully it governs. He speaks with a feeling and enthusiasm, even with the enthusiasm. It is very ironic, critical, it is sometimes caustic and haughty. In a good mood it can become the center of attention to any company. It is sufficiently practical, although to it confidence does not be sufficient in itself. The impression of business, active and sociable person is produced. It dresses sometimes uncommonly and extravagantly, and sometimes simply it is modest. The motions are irregular, are impulsive, but not flattened, but stopped up.

    Logico- sensory introvert: INSPECTOR
    View in LSI somewhat fixed, entire noticing. For a while it occurs fixed on face of collocutor, then it slips off. It looks, as a rule, without the special expression, but sometimes in the view appear alertness, the concealed distrustfulness, suspiciousness.
    Smile benevolent, but appears a little artificially. Laughter also seems unnatural, forged. Mimicry is sufficiently monotonous and poorly expressed. Usually LSI seems by cold person, although in the contact he tries by compliments or by smile to change this impression.
    Gait forged or shuffling. Feet LSI are placed sufficiently directly, stepping by entire foot. When it stands, pose seems somewhat monumental, that thickened. It is held directly, even if it is a little round-shouldered. It sits exactly, without being pulled down. It is pulled, accurate, it is held with the merit.
    It is now and then unexpectedly it is categorical and cuttings in the judgments and it does not suffer objections, but into the long discussions usually it does not enter. It does not love familiarity in the contact, but itself tries to create close distance with the collocutor, if he wants to arrange it to itself. In this case can smile even several zaiskivayushche.

    INSTRUCTOR
    Logical subtype are confident in itself, it is calm, restrained, dryish, correct and not penetrated. It now and then seems haughty. Is moderately amiable, imperturbable bezemotsionalen. It is very polite and attentive to the details of conversation, loves everything to refine and to explain. It stops on not very essential for other details. It is leisurely, now and then even sluggish. It loves to obtain the detailed and comprehensive information to its questions. It does not love uncertainty. It is internally very assembled.
    It loses the presence of spirit and tries never to encourage those, who need its support. Has the straight line, fixed, which looks as through the collocutor, the view, but not experiencing, but is more indifferent. Motions measured off, but somewhat forged. With walking it a little shuffles by foot-wear. When it is turned, it makes this with entire body. It seems that the neck is fixed on the arms, it does not love to twirl by head.

    CONTROLLER
    Sensory subtype appears by more agitated in his behavior and internally more emotional person. It is reticent, but it is very obstinate and it can enter the conflict, when they are not considered its opinion. If it flares up, it is superfluously sharp and categorical in its statements.
    It is restrained, cold, it does not love objections and long explanations. Constantly unnoticeably it follows the actions of others, trying soak to them or the errors. It is sometimes agitated by anything and observations are made, sometimes undertakes for the matter itself or tries soak to make it better without the excess words. By periods it attempts to correct position and then smiles preuvelichenno politely. With walking "is stamped" the step. Gait is sufficiently rapid. He appears by man pulled and active. It dresses conservative, although sometimes it attempts to appear aesthetically, even it is fashionable. With the conversation he tries to approach the collocutor, but without the direct contact. It is not inclined to the affectionate rotation even with the relatives.

    Intuitive- ethical introvert: LYRIC POETRIES
    IEI has the scattered, pensive or dreamy view at times it is noticeable emotional luster in the eyes. Eyes are very expressive, is studied collocutor. But this attentive view IEI does not seem importunate or shrill. The expression of a certain estrangement softens it.
    Smile is natural, but somewhat acted unsure, shy. It seems affectionate, at the same time restrained. The mimicry of face is variable, is expressive, frequently face has melancholy expression. In the contact the collocutors usually are located to itself affable smile.
    The motions, as a rule, soft, smooth, languid or lazy, which on the whole creates the impression of complaisance, weak will. Gestures are elegant, lungs, only theatrical.
    Gait is important-looking or is rapid, but is light, is flattened flatten. Behavior IEI is nedemonstrativnoye, is modest, frequently timid or shy. There can be the unexpected drops in the mood and then behavior is unpredictable, even extravagant. Speech usually is quiet, is insinuating, frequently is emotional, intonation affectionate.

    IDEALIST
    Intuitive subtype appears by the calm, tactful, sluggish, uncertain of itself person. It seems torn from the reality, inert and little fitted out to the life. But this impression is erroneous, since it possesses the excellent intuition, which helps to it to establish useful connections and to find support in men of weight. It acts on those surrounding uspokaivayushche and rasslablyayushche. It is outwardly serene, but in the soul it is sentimental and inclined it takes a long time to survive its confusions. Mimicry is somewhat monotonous, frequently are expressed light surprise or complete interest by collocutor. View dreamy, slightly stressed, with the luster. It is frequently sad, attentive or only ironic. Speech measured off, smooth, intimate- sincere. On face almost constantly is present polite, locating to the confidence poluulybka. The gestures are modest, are timid, nedemonstrativnye. The gait is slow, is smooth.

    DIPLOMAT
    Ethical subtype produces the impression of soft, charming and emotional person. It usually appears voodushevlennym and optimistic. It possesses a good feeling of humor. About its problems and failures it can tell with the smile. It is ironic, sly, not predicted and inconsistent in the behavior and the conversation. Creating original contrasts, it can unexpectedly prick and so rapidly embrace, kiss. Artistichen, obayatelen, are natural in the contact, now and then even with the nuance of familiarity and unceremoniousness. It knows how to draw together distance. It is courteous, amiable and thoughtful. At times it is simply fascinating, is so great of its skill pleasing and of locating to itself people. It knows how to persuade. It presents requests in such form, which to it is difficult to refuse. Motions are elegant, even theatrical. The gait is graceful, is rapid. The speech is emotional, is rich in nuances, sometimes melodious.

    Sensory- logical ekstravert: LEADER
    Appearance SLE is very diverse. This type of personality is not always simple for visual diagnostics as type Eie. It is possible to isolate these common features:
    Cold, evaluating view, sufficiently tenacious, entire noticing, but with the light haze or the languishing eyes, which imparts to it at times the expression of innocence, romanticism or pensiveness. Smile SLE does not always correspond to the expression of eyes; therefore it can appear stretched. Most frequently it smiles on the specific occasion, but not in order to arrange to itself.
    Motions well coordinated, harmonious, although somewhat irregular can be. Gait usually is smooth, is confident, is flexible, "cat". It is noticeable that man cans himself tax, to emphasize the merits of its body. SLE knows how to easily bear its body, even having significant weight. It dresses, as a rule, with the taste, it loves expensive, rare things. Style on each day of business or sport.
    If in a good mood - it is weakened and oars. In the poor mood of lip they are compressed, view sullenly. Poses moderately flattened, gestures important-looking, willingly demonstrates force and confidence in itself. It is time it is impatient, with the unexpected drops in the mood: first it is impulsive and cuttings, then it is ironic and affectionate with the notes of intimacy in the voice.

    COORDINATOR
    Sensory subtype seems by person ingenious, impulsive, who conceals the concealed threat and by no means reasonable. In actuality it is sharp, sufficiently aggressive and persistent. It can be rancorous and it is sufficient to resourceful in order to make life of the svikh ill-wishers of that of simply not tolerated. Has a nature contrasting and unpredictable. With those, whom it loves, it is periodically is very affectionate and even it is sentimental. It possesses such feeling of humor, which easily passes into the sarcasm or the caustic irony. Is talkative, obayatelen, it is ingenious, critical and cuttings, it loves epithets and slang expressions. Its motions are elastic and rapid, gait only waddle, elbows are slightly bent with walking, which gives cat ingratiating tones to it. Is characteristic the evaluating view with light prishchurom. Usually it follows its health, it is periodically occupied by sport or gymnastics. It dresses dearly and with the taste. The bright impression of confident in itself, flourishing person usually is produced.

    ORGANIZER
    Logical subtype leaves the impression of calm force and confidence in itself. It is rational and sequential in the matters. It is industrious and hardy. It is usually cold-blooded, sustained and imperturbable, but into the minutes of irritation it does not hide its fury, which is manifested in the view and the sharp, categorical gestures. In the calm state it is polite, amiable, although it holds collocutor on a certain distance. Its humor of cuttings is rather rough. In it there is rapid, distrustful view from under the eyebrows. Form usually is serious, is alerted. Gait and gestures are harmonious, are smooth and are clear. Somewhat monotonous dresses, and it is strict, although with the times of unexpectedly thrust or it is extravagant. It values qualitative clothing, rarely creating ensembles from a few things. In the majority of the cases it has a tendency too not to be separated. This relates both to the behavior and to the clothing. It seems cold and inaccessible, although he tries to be correct, flat and benevolent. It is held with the merit.

    Sensory- ethical ekstravert: POLITICIAN
    View in See rapid, quick, entire noticing. Eyes can be different form - from the small and the hollow, to the convex, the large, with the languishing eyes. But they have one common special feature - they cross from the object to the object, not on what for long staying. They look at the collocutor attentively, it is sympathetic, but not very for long. Otherwise See it begins frequently to blink.
    The mimicry of face is mobile, is expressive, is now and then nervous, sometimes slack, but always reflects well relation to proceeding. And it is still more frequent - that role, which the situation requires from it. If internal state is opposite to this role, smile becomes that thickened. Frequently the mouth seems slightly capricious, eye - by somewhat rounded.
    Motions are confident, are flexible and are unconstrained. Behavior is variable: the intimate- sincere, preventive, with the touchs or the embraces, the haughty- mocking, with podkalyvaniyami and ambiguous jokes, but is most frequently protectively benevolent. The gait is elastic, is demonstrative, sometimes stirred. See frequently changes a feeling of measure and then its helpfulness, talkativeness and familiarity can seem by importunate.

    TACTICIAN
    Sensory subtype appears by emotional, irregular and nervous person. Behind its uneasiness and by sincere discomfort hides itself a constant thirst of dynamism. Much it undertakes and pulverizes many forces in vain in spite of effort to be diplomatic, it is too critical and it is categorical. Frequently it is agitated, although he does not forget to make compliments. It occurs superfluously it is energetic or intractable, especially if to it something they tie. It can look at the collocutor somewhat condescendingly, catch with his prickly jokes. But it can be very amiable and it knows how for long to persuade, if this is necessary. It possesses good artistic abilities, it knows how to cheer guests. It is usually thin, it follows the figure, it is periodically occupied by sport. Eyes are more frequently small or deeply sponsors. Gestures are impatient, and the motions nervous, irregular. Poses frequently change. Gait weakened or unsteady, only being braided. Speech can be indistinct or tongue twister.

    TRADER
    Ethical subtype - active and mobile person, willingly is moved and are established useful connections. It knows how to make compliments, in detail tells about his possibilities or abilities close ones, loves to produce impression. Intimate intonations in the voice, the confidence manner of contact and charm make it possible to rapidly conquer the arrangement of collocutor. It frequently has convex eyes, smooth, confident gestures, assume the slack poses. It is inclined to dress uncommonly, by thrust, it is extravagant. In spite of rounded forms or tendency toward the completeness not it kompleksuyet apropos of deficiencies in its figure and everything dresses which pleases itself it. Loves to sit razvalyas'. The gait is elastic, is haughty. It is held very confidently, even it is protective.


    Intuitive- logical introvert: CRITICISMS

    View in OR calm, a little sad, cold, suspended, pensive. At times - self-centered, at times experiencing, sufficiently scattered. Now and then the expression of its eyes becomes mocking and sly, then in them luster appears. Eyes more frequent large and store the concentrated expression.
    Mimicry in OR is sufficiently monotonous, frequently there is the dissatisfied or sad expression of face. The smile of politeness does not sometimes correspond to situation, only artificial, but soft and locating, now and then even coquettish. It is usually calm and sad, but if something sees which does not please itself it, it occurs ironic, rarely - even it is sarcastic.
    He appears OR in the majority of the cases by man balanced, serious and deep. The motions are smooth, are leisurely, weakened. Gait a little acted unsure, although it is held with the merit. The gestures are modest, are nedemonstrativnye as entire manner of behavior. Poses weakened, unconstrained. Usually it is leisurely, it loves to have a talk. Speech in it is smooth, is a little monotonic.

    PHILOSOPHER
    Intuitive subtype appears by the calm, balanced, even sluggish person. Motions are smooth and are leisurely. It is internally shy, but he tries to hide this under the mask of irony. It is tactful, polite, punctilious. He tries in the conversation to avoid straightness and criticism. It is affable and amiable, but rarely it smiles. It is frequently something it is depressed, dissatisfied. It is internally very touchy, contradictory even we wound, although this tries not to demonstrate. From this it is frequently in the poor arrangement of spirit. Second reason - health status. It discusses its problems with the strangers not frequently, it is held with the people on the distance, it is sufficiently reserved. It loves to converse, to tell anything. It possesses a good descriptive thinking, much reads or reflects. Sometimes - it is high, thin and round-shouldered, sometimes - it is slender, but it is always important-looking. Gait and motions are smooth, only being swung.

    EXPERT
    Logical subtype produces the impression of confident in itself, sober-minded and reasonable person. It sometimes seems haughty, mocking. It is usually amiable, frequently it smiles, but smile seems monotonous, that thickened. It possesses a feeling of humor and a critical turn of mind. It is skeptical, ironic and distrustful. He tries to be polite and therefore it does not always voice aloud its thoughts and observations. Entire constantly is subjected to the analysis. It entrusts more to numbers and facts, than to precocious conclusions. A good innovator, knows how to isolate the main thing and to leave from the matters useless from his point of view. More frequently there is plumpish and thickset; however, gait usually rapid, and motion goal-directed and decisive. It can gesticulate, it occurs irregular, impulsive, but it is usually held solidly, with the calm merit.

    Logico- intuitive ekstravert: EXPERIMENTER

    View LIE opened, straight, which sometimes studies, and then it for a long time stops on the collocutor. Sometimes view becomes suspended, regardless of the fact, looks LIE at the man or at the object. In such cases in collocutor the impression is created, that LIE it does not listen to, but he thinks about by something his.
    Frequently on face LIE it is possible to note the smile of affability, which seems a little stretched. For it sharp changes in the mood, when cordiality and gaiety are unexpectedly changed by preoccupation, strictness and seriousness, are typical. The mimicry of face is not rich in nuances, although it is sufficiently mobile.
    Motions are rapid, at times are irregular and are decisive. Gait is dynamic, but slightly fixed, sometimes only jumping. In the conversation frequently it gesticulates, he speaks in tongue twister or with hitches, it jokes sometimes with the serious form in order to strengthen effect from the joke. Frequently there is flattened and somewhat familiar, it behaves unconstrainedly and simply. Usually LIE of zhizneradosten is optimistic, it is characterized by democratism of behavior and it easily draws together distance in the contact.

    REFORMER
    Logical subtype produces the impression of mobile, but strict and efficient person. Its face is not very emotional. Loves to look directly, into the support, izuchayushche. View for a long time is fixed on the collocutor or the objects. It is a little shy, although he tries to hide this. There is is somewhat it is distrustful, critical and superfluously categorical. It is difficult to distract it from that planned, he tries everything to lead to the end. In spite of habit to the meditations, it is decisive and impulsive in words and behavior. It is inclined to the prolonged conversations. Tension in the contact because of the desire to seem self-possessed, careful and serious is characteristic of it. Its apparent undeliberateness can be changed into the unexpected haste. In the majority of the cases its figure is thickset, and motions are angular. He tries to be held confidently, also, with the merit. If it jokes, then this with the serious form makes, only smiling by the corners of lips.

    STRATEGIST
    Intuitive subtype is pleasant in the contact, it is courteous and amiable. It is affectionate, oars, it possesses a developed feeling of humor. He frequently becomes the soul of company. It is very mobile, restless and scattered, constantly it hurries, tries to have time to make much. Voodushevlen, is energetic and optimistic. It is very enterprising, boldly it goes to the risk, it has many ideas. To it is difficult long time to sosredotachivat' attention in by something one. It has immediately several points of the application of its forces. Is diplomatic galanten with all, especially with the women, but it can manifest familiarity with the closer acquaintance. Because of the tendency toward the unceremoniousness, it frequently changes a feeling of time, and it accomplishes the ethical oversights, which so rapidly he tries to correct with the aid of the jokes and different services. Behaves simply, raskovanno and unconstrainedly. In the conversation sometimes it loves to concern collocutor, to embrace, to kiss, to joke. Gestures and gait are deprived of the emphasized solidity, it is very natural.

    Ethics- sensory introvert: KEEPER
    ESI has attentive, only the alerted view, sometimes a little frightened or confused. Nothing it slips off from this view. It notices everything, it analyzes. Eyes frequently are large, beautiful, expressive. But even if they small size, always focus on themselves attention.
    Smile ESI most frequently somewhat stretched, or alarming. Certain it is generally difficult to smile, although they try to appear less strict. The mimicry of face is somewhat monotonous, it sometimes seems that thickened.
    Motions are elegant, but only stopped up. Gait ESI beautiful, a little forged, is somewhat angular or that resembling pendulum motions. Poses are elegant, but without the excesses, usually well controlled. In the behavior is felt the shyness, shyness or indecision. If it attempts to hide this, fills on itself haughtiness or behaves with the light call. It is most frequently held seriously, with the merit, a little officially.

    MORALIST
    Ethical subtype usually produces the impression of modest, delicate and soft person, but in the soul it is fundamental, exacting and distrustful. It it is difficult in by anything to reconvince. It can be obstinate and intractable. We wound, it is punctilious and does not love itself to tie. It is internally critical, it approaches all with the high moral measures, although not always this it voices. If we catch its principles, it unexpectedly can show nature, becoming sharp and obstinate. It is industrious and practical. It is thorough and tedious in the work. It demonstrates good manners, he tries to be graceful and elegant. It dresses with the taste, but are somewhat monotonous. View is soft, at times is fearful, which tests. In the contact with others - this is sincere, affable, thoughtful and courteous person.

    IT TRADITSIONALIST
    Sensory subtype is sufficiently strict, critical and ironic. Is categorical in the conclusions and beskompromissen in the solutions. Internally we wound and it is emotional, but he tries to seem by strong, cold-blooded and confident in itself person. It is serious, they will lock and it is reserved. It is conservative in the views and the habits. It is honest in the work, but sometimes to it assiduity does not be sufficient. It seems now and then haughty, unapproachable, prickly. View is shrill, face acquires the sometimes alerted expression. It is benevolent and attentive, but it is held on the distance. Very nedemonstrativen, does not love, when it is examined. It fears strange estimations and greatly it follows the appearance. It dresses elegantly, with the taste, but it is strict. If it is confident in its appearance, it can allow itself additional accessories. A somewhat stamping gait has.

    Logico- sensory ekstravert: CONTROLLING


    View LSE is rapid, evaluating, cold, noting everything all around to the least details. Eyes look at the collocutor directly, into the support and, in spite of emotional luster, they seem by not very expressive. They more often ask and is obtained information, than it they issue. But strong feelings - interest or indifference, anger or happiness - are always easily read in the view of restrained LSE.
    Mimicry LSE is also well-off, face napryazhenno, because of what it seems a little nervous. Lips are tightly compressed, it smiles rarely, a little stretched. Then its laughter is very infectious.
    Gait usually is clear or is irregular, is angular, as if wooden. It as if "stamps step". Back the straight line, inflexible. The gestures are decisive, are sharp, confident. It is agitated, it cannot for long in one pose remain. It frequently has strong build or thickset figure, it is militarily pulled. The manner of behavior is aristokratichnaya, is official, planing. It is held on the distance, with the merit.

    ADMINISTRATOR
    Logical subtype is efficient, dry in the contact, it is correct, has a strict form, it is unapproachable. It is not inclined to the jokes, it is serious, restrained. It is usually laconic, but if it flares up, it is difficult to stop it. It is straight-line in the behavior and the conversation. It can manifest sharpness in the judgments, because of what it has many ethical problems. There is another extreme - can keep silent, and then, kopya of offence, it will for long avoid contact.
    Beskompromissen is obstinate. Sometimes it attempts to arrange collocutor to itself by intimate or sincere intonations in the voice. This makes, if most is located to the frankness, either he wants to obtain some information or service. It is reserved, over-anxious and distrustful. It does not love to speak about feelings. It prefers to be occupied by anything useful and to lead everything to the end. It is constantly stressed, to it difficult to be discharged, to be weakened. It is subjected to the unexpected flashes of anger. It is forged in the motions.

    TECHNOLOGIST
    Sensory subtype is characterized by stability and fitness for work. It is very energetic, it cannot sit without the matter and it does not love to in vain lose time. It is interested in new technologies in its professional region and knows how to adapt them for its needs. It is impulsive, energetic, it knows how hotly to convince. It is exacting and strict, but sometimes it yields to the persuasions. It possesses a feeling of humor. Speech - is jerky, emotional. Frequently it is possible to note that locating, only the stretched smile. Are sometimes the attempts to draw together distance in the contact cordial, friendly gestures - embraces, by clappings, by light touchs to the collocutor. Behaves sufficiently raskovanno and unconstrainedly. It lively conducts conversation, it jokes. Epicure and aesthete. It loves expensive, qualitative and beautiful things, original dishes. It knows how to remove stress, after sitting at the table with the friends. But for long to rest for itself it does not make possible. Usually has the rounded shapes of body or tendency toward the completeness. Motions are irregular, are sharp, are rapid and are impulsive. It is sufficiently restless.

    Ethics- intuitive introvert: HUMANIST

    In EII usually the attentive, analyzing view, penetrating, but soft. Sometimes a little suspended, scattered, while sometimes studying and confused. Now and then it expresses silent reproach as the consequence of the concealed and unexpressed thoughts or impressions. Eyes are very expressive, they transfer well a feeling of compassion or offence. Then into them the secret pain and melancholy. Happiness is much thinner.
    The mimicry of face, on the contrary, is sufficiently scant. Most frequently face EII generally seems inspired, calm and impassive, although its muscles are a little stressed. Smile is rarely - timid or a little confused.
    Are held BY EII several neuverenno and it is timid. Poses and gestures are modest, nedemonstrativny. It is usually restrained in the conversation, its speech low, even exclamations seem muted. It rarely is eloquent and it is even more rarely emotional - usually only when its feelings and principles are deeply touch uponed. It will not always argue, but is very obstinate beskompromissen in its persuasions.

    PSYCHOLOGIST
    Ethical subtype is polite and tactful, restrained and impassive. Usually it soblyudayet a certain distance in the contact, it now and then seems strict, cold, bezemotsional'nym. Gradually this impression is scattered, since in the process of contact sincere sympathy is manifested and desire soak by the matter. It is usually serious, calm and benevolent. It is very penetrating, but it is reserved. Rarely it shares its observations. It is punctilious and very tactful. It does not know how to joke, it fears to say excess. It departs silently from the disputes, without resorting to diplomacy. It is very industrious, tedious, patient and assiduous. It does not transfer injustice and violence. It is sequential and solid in its principles. It knows how to create comfort, to decorate house with distributions. Much it knows how to make with its hands. View is alerted, rarely it smiles. It follows the figure, it is always accurate, pulled. It is modest, but it is dressed with the taste, if means are allowed - izyskanno is elegant. Motions are smooth, although are stopped up stop up. Gait is sufficiently rapid, is light, frequently semenyashchaya, a little forged forge. It sits directly, rarely it gesticulates.

    TEACHER
    Intuitive subtype is with restraint emotional, strict. To those, to whom it sympathizes with, manifests cordiality, benevolence and affability. Sometimes it loves to joke. He tries not to tell people unpleasant things, but always it cannot be held in order not to express its disagreement or disturbance, about which then greatly it will regret. It is serious and punctilious. Converging with the man, he tries to be to it anything useful. It is acted unsure of itself, it is touchy even we wound, although it attempts to hide this. Has a good descriptive thinking and creative abilities. It knows how to interpret different symbols, dreams, mystical means. It loves to advise, to bring up, to add, but only in the narrow to circle. It is held modestly and unnoticeably. It dresses simply, adhering to classical style, is frequently conservative. Mimicry and gesticulation is not very expressed. Speech is emotional, but not flattened, tone it frequently edifying. It has frequently disproportionate figure, are somewhat thickset or with the tendency toward the completeness. Gait is a little clumsy, only waddle.

    Intuitive- ethical ekstravert: INSPIRER
    Eyes in Iee are mobile and are expressive. They reflect well internal emotional state and relation to others. Their expression is very variable. View frequently is scattered, but it becomes penetrating and deep, when it is concentrated on the collocutor. Usually benevolent, merry and even coquettish, under the effect of the emotions it can become stressed and angry.
    The mimicry of face corresponds to emotional state. Emotions Iee are very variable; therefore mimicry is diverse - from the infectious laughter to the strong disturbance, from the ecstasy to the quiet pensiveness. In it frequently there is the suspended, dreamy expression of face. Smile appears easily and naturally on face Iee.
    Sometimes it can express encouragement, even if at this moment for it it is necessary to voice unpleasant things. Usually on the people it develops optimist; therefore if mood in it poor, smile and expression of eyes can not coincide. The intonations of voice also issue well its internal state.
    The motions are irregular, are impulsive, flattened. Poses Iee are free and are unconstrained, sometimes somewhat theatrical, if he feels, that it is examined. Gait a little loosened or neskoordinirovanaya. It walks rapidly, easily, being frequently encountered the obstacles. The manners of behavior are simple and natural, but it is a little demonstrative. It does not love touchs and familiarity. Distance in the contact skillfully is
    regulated.

    ADVISER
    Intuitive subtype produces the impression of person, a little torn from the reality, internally concentrated and at the same time scattered. It is inclined to the unexpected contrasts of the behavior: shyness and apathy can be changed into by emotional lift, determination and activity, the melancholy expression of face - to voodushevlennoye or glad. Thoughtful and impulsive, optimistic and depressed, shy and energetic, it produces diverse impression. Internally contradictory, touchy and ranimyy, it hides its problems under the mask of lightheartedness. He tries to be affable with all, it attempts each to understand, to give presents by smile. It is attentive, soft and tactful, it locates to the confidence. Willingly it investigates the problems of others, he tries to find way out of the difficult situation, to give advice. It protects its views emotionally, it can show psychological pressure on the opponent. Motions are badly coordinated, impulsive, a little angular. Gait is rapid, somewhat clumsy. Chin is frequently sharpened, the view attentive, interrogative or astonished, penetrating.

    IMPROVISATOR
    The ethical subtype of artistichen, is impatient, a little extravagant. It is not predicted in its actions and statements. It loves to astonish or to entertain those surrounding, even insignificant events it can present as sensation. He frequently becomes the soul of the company: it is confident in itself, with a good feeling of humor, it is natural and it is very impulsive. It is characterized by sincerity and directness of child, who does not hide his feelings. It can create the almost domestic situation of contact even with the unfamiliar people. Willingly he speaks compliments, is enraptured by those surrounding. It is optimistic and friendly. Obayatelen is coquettish, but it is too straight-line and rash in statements and behavior. This produces the impression of the apparent accessibility or theatricality. At times it is energetic, by periods concentrated. It looks directly, attentively, without blinking. The motions are sharp, are decisive. The gait is swift, is confident, although it is a little angular. Frequently has rounded face, loves originally, also, with the taste to dress, to produce impression, to be pleased by that surrounding.

    Sensory- logical introvert: MASTER
    View SLI is variable: first it is directed toward one point, then, unnoticeably entire noticing, slides along the surrounding objects. The eyes calm, cold, serious, but if collocutor causes arrangement - soften. The expression of eyes reflects the general relation to those surrounding - it the ironic, the affectionate, the politely- apathetic.
    Mimicry - monotonous, frequently thickened, sometimes animated, but only according to the situation it is short-term. In essence face looks like the impenetrable mask. Smile is more frequent that restrained, although it is unexpectedly open. The expression of face usually is a little mocking.
    It is held confidently, but not it is demonstrative, with the merit, it does not love, when they scrutinize it, it prefers to be in the shadow. It is cold, unapproachable. Poses assume convenient, weakened, frequently slightly it slips down from the chair. The least discomfort in the situation notes: noise, unpleasant smells, a change in the temperature. It is very enterprising in questions of creation and maintenance of the necessary comfort, but without the excesses. Values, first of all, convenience.

    DECORATOR
    Sensory subtype is modest and nedemonstrativen, is restrained and polite, obstinate and beskompromissen in settling of its interests. It argues its position by logic and by facts, but by the not devised reason. At times it is pensive, it departs to itself, it distances itself from those surrounding, being immersed in its problems. Are somewhat forged in the contact, it is laconic, but now and then he tries at raspolagayushche to smile, if he feels, that appears the tension in the conversation. It dresses with the taste, it loves original, qualitative, but modest things, it follows the health, the figure, the appearance. Aesthete, loves manual work. It is thorough and tedious. It is patient and persistent. If its matter carries along, it untiring improves its production - material or intellectual. Sometimes it needs change in the occupations, but he tries everything to lead to the end. It usually has the gracefully- lazy gestures, smooth and in this case confident and precise motions. Gait somewhat weakened, elastic. It does not love to hurry, but also it is not sluggish. It seems a little haughty.

    INNOVATOR
    Logical subtype is held on the distance, they will lock, now and then cuttings it is straight-line. It is very independent and proud, it enters in the manner that to it it is convenient. In the conversation it is prickly and ironic, but it becomes affable and interested, if sympathy and respect are experienced to the collocutor. After noting that it offended man, it will regret about this, it softens, converts everything into the joke or it begins to be apologized, to calm. The vulnerability and sensitiveness hides itself behind the external inaccessibility. It is impatient and mobile, it loves constant changes and new impressions. It is active, operational and it is very thoughtful. It does not love discomfort in any manifestations. Therefore he tries to correct everything, to repair and to adapt for the convenience. It is required, reliable and punctual. It is exacting to itself and by others. It behaves with the cold merit, but it is emotional. Behavior is not predicted: the unexpected passages from the cold contemplativeness to the impulse actions. The gestures are impulsive, are decisive. Gait rapid, measured off.
    , LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
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    I've battled between the two subtypes for a time. In my youth, it was more beneficial to be the inutitive, because I had to be more adaptable, softer. Now I can solidify my Ti and be more Ti subtype, systemizer.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTj, Ti subtype description
    Its cold penetrating view is difficult to maintain.
    Another translation I've read said 'It's cold penetrating view is difficult for it to maintain.' which seems to reflect my own experience better. I am self-conscious about the stare and hate fixing it on people. Which is closer to the Russian meaning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat
    Quote Originally Posted by INTj, Ti subtype description
    Its cold penetrating view is difficult to maintain.
    Another translation I've read said 'It's cold penetrating view is difficult for it to maintain.' which seems to reflect my own experience better. I am self-conscious about the stare and hate fixing it on people. Which is closer to the Russian meaning?
    "His cold, penetrating gaze can be difficult to withstand."

    By the way, Expat, the authors of all these descriptions should be "Valentina Meged and Anatoly Ovcharov."

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    Quote Originally Posted by labcoat
    Quote Originally Posted by INTj, Ti subtype description
    Its cold penetrating view is difficult to maintain.
    Another translation I've read said 'It's cold penetrating view is difficult for it to maintain.' which seems to reflect my own experience better. I am self-conscious about the stare and hate fixing it on people. Which is closer to the Russian meaning?

    I could also see it is... "It is difficult for the INTj to maintain its cold penetrating view (of life)". As an LII I cannot avoid looking at/into things. Doing it is not 'easy' or 'nice feeling', though. The constant doubt and questioning. I wonder if that is why LII is susceptible to hedonism at times, to try to balance out the natural functioning that it must go through. It may also be related to ESE duality.


    However I agree with the original statement, as well as labcoats take on it.
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    I just figured out I'm an ethical subtype.
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    Motions, on the contrary, are a little retarded
    LOL, thanks.

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    This thread would fit better within articles forum where all the other type descriptions are.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    This thread would fit better within articles forum where all the other type descriptions are.
    I rephrase that. This thread does not belong in General Discussion. Move it to articles forum.
    EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
    E3 (probably 3w4)

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    ILI, logical sub-type for sure.
    Te-INTp/ILI, my wife: Fi-ISFj/ESI, with laser beam death rays for ESTp/SLEs, lol
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    I love theese russian translations. Russians. Truly profound. Reading it once won't do. You have to slowly uncover the layers. "Gestures and speech either are retarded or they are accelerated". Read between the lines. It's all in the context. And who wouldn't like to be the GARMONIZATOR

    in theese descriptions i split between adviser/improvisator. In other descriptions i am prolly NE subtype but my face is deceptively round
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    Quote Originally Posted by dattebayo View Post
    And who wouldn't like to be the GARMONIZATOR
    hahaha : )
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    so/sx (?)

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    how about this line in describing SEI:

    the noses of feet with walking frequently dilute to the sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    how about this line in describing SEI:

    the noses of feet with walking frequently dilute to the sides.
    Oh yeah! That one is great : )
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    Something I stumbled upon today. The full subtype descriptions by Meged & Ovcharov. Containing the same old wikisocion stuff plus some more.
    I wish someone would translate these.

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    Don Quixote, ILE, ENTp (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1. Intuitive subtype: The inventor.

    Appearance: Intuitive subtype may give the impression of detachment, flying in the clouds, and childish person. Sociable, easy to enter into conversation. He reads a lot, very curious and willing to discuss this information with others interested in their opinions. His apparent shyness and modesty combined with equanimity and stubbornness when he takes to defend their point of view. He loves to debate, but rarely brings up the fact that the dispute over the conflict. Often smiles around, even if they do not give to this cause. With the same smile, talks about the ridiculous and the serious. Tries to be nice to everyone and is not offended by the comments. In their studies, and patient, despite some dispersion and forgetfulness, that it is very interested, bring to a conclusion. Gestures and speech have either slowed or accelerated. Unconstrained postures, look distracted, out of focus. Gait and movements are relaxed, seem unsure or weak-willed.

    Character: resourceful and inventive in difficult situations. Curious. Interested in new, unusual or poorly understood phenomena. Usually a lot of reads or has a wide range of interests.

    Clearly see the prospects of ideas and deeds. Prefers to do things that is interesting, but not that profitable, provided the necessary security. Can thoroughly deal with one problem, if it is it interesting or beneficial.

    Occasionally suffers from its nesobrannosti, or lack of will and initiative. Can organize themselves jobs involving all hands, making up for lost time.

    Not vain, not in a hurry with the implementation of their plans or ideas, because it believes that the main results to come. Likes to surprise others with sensational news.

    At rest maloinitsiativen unless faced with a crisis situation, which increases its vitality and stimulates vigorous activity. Then he begins to vigorously engage in deeds, not sparing the time and material resources.

    Defends its own interests are less willing than the interests of loved ones, although sometimes it can be principled and uncompromising attitude in important matters for him. Not always necessary - can not promise that will not be able to perform. Knowing this, sometimes wary to promise not to spoil relations.

    Does not like regimentation and monotonic operation. Can not live on a strict plan. Dislikes routine. For this reason, are reluctant to deals with everyday life, providing in this initiative to others. Also often relies on the taste of a partner in the field of aesthetics.

    Quite scattered, and sometimes forgets what to do. Maintain a constant order for it burdensome. Distracted by the little things sometimes do not have time to make important deadlines.

    It combines the kindness, idealism and gullibility. Because of the impracticality of his credulity and is easily fooled. It was originally incorporated a sense of justice and faith in a better, so it is hard going through such events.

    Rarely says a compliment, but generally benevolent to people, trying to understand their wants and needs to be all helpful. Willingly advises on how to extricate himself from difficult situations.

    Avoid disagreements and conflicts. Supports all equal relations. If necessary, try to explain the reasons for their failures or unethical behavior.

    Needs a jolt of emotional, with delighted to have fun with friends. Loves people happy, friendly, confident, optimistic, able to raise provocative jokes, his mood.

    As poorly versed in how people relate to it, afraid the first to discover their feelings for a long time doubt in them, does not like to rush things. Because of this, may miss your chance and take the initiative with a long delay, when time has gone.

    2. Logical subtype: Finder.

    Appearance: Logical subtype tries to impress a serious man. Can be harsh, sometimes even arrogant. Confident, speaks quickly, usually peremptory tone. Overly categorical in their judgments, tends to impose on others their opinion. Sometimes it seems pushy and opinionated. Impatient and can not always listen to the end of the interlocutor. Often fond of something new, trying to find him a practical embodiment. Actively and vigorously defends its own interests. In this case, can flare up and hurt a man, but seeing this, tries to correct the situation. Very proud and could offend for nothing, saying a rude, but after some time again to be affable and benevolent. Unpredictable and contrast in their behavior. Look - a scattered, then searching, tenacious. Gait and gestures sweeping, confident but ill-coordinated. Poses free, uninhibited. Easily brings distance can hug and kiss his interlocutor.

    Character: Loves all subject to logical analysis, may be engaged in theoretical developments, if later they can be put into practice. Critically comprehending the old theories or approaches can create a qualitatively new. Vague ideas can turn into a well-designed and easy voplotimy specific project. Have a good marketing flair, can feel good future prospects.

    Active and energetic. A good organizer, a savvy strategic issues. Passion and willingly draws people to new beginnings, when he sees them in the future.

    Constantly seeking new approaches and solutions to the problems did not stop there.

    Quickly loses interest made by being drawn to new projects or features that are difficult to exhaust through. Because of this, can throw and not all begun to follow through, unless it concerns important and fundamental questions for him. Often completely changes the kind of activity, trying a new.

    Wants to be credible, and therefore inclined to impose their views. It is difficult to admit they were wrong. It can not be intimidated. Might be challenged by a superior for his opponent, even without any serious chance of success. In a dispute excitement, when pressure from the bold and aggressive in fighting back. When surrounded by panic, calmly and confidently takes the initiative in their hands, it becomes focused and resolute, act quickly and logically. Finds a way out of any difficult situation.

    Ambitious, if necessary, showing toughness and punching quality. Does not like to compromise. As the director, prefers that all were in their seats and doing their job. Encourages others to be active, cohesion. Suggests radical solutions to problems.

    Tries to be fair to everyone, but is not afraid to speak the truth in the eye. Is unrestrained in the dispute. Obsessive people who want to use it in their interests, is trying to distance himself from.

    Although that may dissipate attention to detail, usually tries to keep their promises. Often put the interests of business above the family or friendship. Afraid of becoming dependent to a partner. Reproaches removes it from itself. Can defend its independence in sharp form, which is often spared, and then tries to smooth over the impression, if a person is dear to him.

    Democrat by nature, tends to be first among equals. Not inclined to chinopochitaniyu and conformity. Free passes to the unfamiliar interlocutor "you", shows its location handshake and friendly smile.

    To raise the vitality periodically needs to be cheerful company, or other activities (sports or other hobbies). Likes to start useful links. Since it is not always well versed in people, sometimes in questionable contacts. Therefore inclined to be disappointed in people. He hardly gives a stable and good relationship with them.

    Mistrustful of feelings, afraid to show them not knowing the future reaction partner, painfully experiencing the uncertainty in the relationship. If you believe in reciprocity, to be honest about their shortcomings, as fears deceive the hopes and expectations of the partner and himself to be deceived in their hopes.

    source: http://www.psychotypes.ru/index.php/...vcharovpodtipy
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    Dumas, SEI, ISFp (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1. Sensory subtype: a hedonist.

    Appearance: It seems quiet and gentle in dealing man. Loves peace and comfort. Economic and practical. He tries everything to do with taste. Frequently engaged as a hobby what some artistic crafts. Friendly, tactful and unobtrusive, his presence calms others. Tries to sympathize, to help with advice. Loves to talk about their feelings carefully asks his interlocutor about his affairs. Sluggish behavior and unhurried in conversation, a little drawl, sometimes with difficulty formulating thoughts. Even if you suffer patter, does not hurry to end the conversation. Maybe a long and detailed talk about the same. Constantly confiding smiles, nods in support. Has a lazy, gentle movements, elegant, graceful gestures. He walks a little waddle, or "duck" gait. Nedemonstrativen, but his clothes and accessories sometimes attract the attention of others.

    Character: This is a man conscious of subtle harmony in communication. Peaceable, tries to approach everyone. Treasures its peace and able to move away from any sources of irritation. In cases prefer to negotiate at an informal level. He knows how to patiently persuade anyone to be good or profitable thing, but does not always know what is really promising, so it may waver in new undertakings, fearing a mistake and be sorry later.

    Inquisitive, collects a variety of information and sharing it with others. Critically assesses the information received, does not like to exaggerate, in need of facts and evidence. He likes to argue with him a bit, reviving the conversation, but aggressive people tolerate bad avoids quarrels. Tries under any circumstances, do not lose a sense of proportion. In disputes remains neutral. Even when you have to fight for its independence, is able to maintain good relations with all. It is not easy to deny a person's request, to alienate, so cautious at the beginning of communication, fear "stuck" with difficulty determines what people can do and what to expect from him. Appreciate talented and outstanding people.

    Attentive to people, caring, very considered and their amenities. Is able to describe in detail the events and he can be patient listener. Always warm, soft, charming, tends to inner peace and harmony with the environment. Usually, no one criticizes and dislikes, when it criticized other people. Often acted as a peacemaker, trying to convince people to go for mutual compromise. Does not like to compete, make people do something against their will. With some difficulty defending the interests of business, if you are unable to agree on an informal level.

    Loves nature and beauty in any manifestation. Tends to various pleasures, has a good memory for sounds, colors, smells. Has a tendency to follow fashion, tastefully dressed. He likes the comfort and aesthetics, a variety of original jewelry. Draws attention to the manners and behavior of other people, evaluating them himself.

    By nature secretive and vulnerable, trying to avoid burdening a friend with requests for help only in extreme cases. Do not like about yourself, when he feels that they are not interested. Does not like to talk about their failures, ask for help only to relatives and experienced people. Hospitable, loves everything to be delicious cooked and beautifully served. Taking visitors on a high level, spending on such holidays so much power, so that makes it rare.

    Economic, loves everything to do with their hands. All that is taken, does tastefully and with a soul. Does not like commitments and trying not to make promises, because they are not afraid to run. Maybe some impression of passive, inert man because they do not see any sense in the empty vanity and a waste of effort. Because of this often has a reputation for talented bands, taking in the life of a philosophical, contemplative stance. Tends to a good material standard of living.

    2. Ethical subtype: Harmonizer.

    Appearance: Lively, emotional, friendly, and free people to communicate. Easily brings the distance in communication, willing to take his interlocutor's hand, said compliments. His ease is a shade of familiarity. Shyness can be replaced by the comments in a joking manner. Irony and podkalyvaniya "easily turn into a serious and respectful tone. Often jokes and even the unpleasant things said with a smile, not to offend people. Attentive and caring.

    Impatient and restless. Times has a temper, but othodchiv and nezlopamyaten. Usually optimistic, cheerful and fun. Likes to receive and give pleasure. Often makes people compliments and provide various services. Knows how to cheer up, cheer up. It seems serene man, as his experience is likely to hide from strangers. Speaks quickly and confidently, sometimes dogmatically, with an imperious intonations. Looking at it quickly, all notices, sometimes "shoot", and sometimes significant. Movement confident, graceful, but a bit jerky.

    Character: Very appreciate the joy of human contact and all the other joys of life. Tries to deliver them as yourself and others. As a rule, very helpful, friendly, sympathetic and attentive. Often becomes the soul of the company. Hospitable, loves to cook. Proficient in their ability to please, easy to create a relaxed, confidential atmosphere of communication. Beautifully care makes all the compliments and uplifting. Knows how to cheer people hoaxes and jokes. But if he sees that someone becomes angry, quickly smooths out a bad impression of a sad joke, a conversation without bringing up the conflict.

    Has many friends, but fun never ends only among close friends, where it does not need it, trying not to go. With a few other people wary and reserved. Does not like cold and arrogant people with whom you can not create an atmosphere of intimacy and informality. In dealing with unpleasant people worried about him, his speech sometimes becomes hurried and indistinct. Not inclined to subordination, avoiding the authorities and the boring business talk. During illness or bad mood is trying to retire, not wanting to impose on others for their problems.

    Trying to lighten the mood and vitality around, pretending that he was very angered by their passivity and inaction. If the jokes do not help, is able to touch a word as to cause the desired reaction. Sometimes, in the interest of the case, put on rigor and strictness. It is difficult to understand, when he was joking, but when serious. Well versed in the subtle nuances of feelings of others and willing to demonstrate their own, making a success with the opposite sex.

    Internally contradictory and depends heavily on your mood. Can not stand uncertainty and doubt, trying to solve the problem in any way. Impatient, he found it hard to wait for a natural outcome of events, preferring to speed it up. At the same time inclined to take hasty decisions and to commit reckless acts. Not lost under any circumstances, as a rather clever and resourceful. Quick eye for weaknesses in a person and a situation can give them a humorous tint. Tries to establish and maintain contacts, but he sometimes lacks tolerance and diplomacy.

    Plays the role of a man without a problem. Rather optimistic. Failures seem to him unworthy of attention. Lead sedentary lives. In the role of the active person is often bustling, although business activity is given with great difficulty. Can not do one thing for a long time. Often changes his occupation, tries his hand at various activities. Does not like hard work, but willingly takes on an interesting, which does with great enthusiasm. However, you may suddenly grow cold to it, and not to finish. Often angers people by their nesobrannostyu, but it is hard for a long time to get angry.

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    Hugo, ESE, ESFj (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Ethical subtype: a popularizer.

    Appearance: Ethical subtype polite and courteous, but stubborn and nesgovorchiv in important matters for him. Because of this, may be too much perseverance. All inclined to follow through. It is difficult to stop in time, as may later regret. Tries to be serious, reserved and polite in contact, but may have long-term emotional pressure on those who do, in his view, wrong. Likes to take his interlocutor's hand, touch his clothes. Can cook and entertain, but does it not often, as more passionate social work. He likes to make gifts family and is able to find suitable reasons for this. Dressed tastefully, but relatively modest. Gait is fast, a little bounce. Increasingly thin, slightly angular. A person may express anger and outrage, changing a radiant smile.

    Character: optimistic and active person. Sociable, inquisitive and tells a lot of different information. Benevolent, nezavistliv, is able to enjoy the successes of others, willingly talks about his own. Trying to look moderate and steady, but it did not always succeed. Mood changes frequently, even for minor reasons.

    His outraged self-righteous, critical-minded or hypocritical people. From a sense of fairness may deliberately spoil their mood, even create an intolerable situation. Condemns the bad taste, rude and tactless. Trying to instill good manners relatives. Often resents the lack of order and justice.

    It is easy to make new friends both personal and business purposes, but the close friends he has few, because not all survive his emotional pressure. Poorly versed in the qualifications of the people.

    Well-developed sense of humor. Enthusiasm and describes in detail the events have occurred to him, hear or read. Likes to discuss public issues. Opponent waste of time, so it tries to fill it with interesting experiences: visiting the cinema, theater, exhibitions, friends, etc.

    Several conservative and cautious in his new endeavors as well as difficulty seeing the prospects and fears making a mistake. Prefers tried methods, but at the same time not tolerate a routine. Very curious and would not mind to test themselves in something new. Can long hesitate before making important decisions. Willingly listens to advice of others, doubts, fears and reckless action. At the last moment before making a risky decision may retreat.

    Crimson any idea, it becomes an active supporter and advocate, seeks to put into practice, not sparing no effort or time. Knows how to captivate people, urging them to implement what he has planned. Patience and perseverance. Takes up a new business with great enthusiasm and tries to bring it to the end. Likes capable, talented and interesting people.

    Not very willingly engaged in domestic issues and does not adhere to a strict order. If not in the mood, may adjourn the case until later. More committed to social activities, wants to benefit the people. Does not like to be late for the event, it happens only in extreme cases and for good reason. Tends to dress in fashion, sometimes even a little extravagant, but more modestly.

    2. Sensory subtype: Guardian.

    Appearance: Sensory subtype is energetic, businesslike and practical. Emotional and fairly straightforward, but responsive and benevolent to the people. Is able to correct the impression from their sharp remarks. Confident, courageous and skillful in their ability to please. Koketliv and pleasant, creates an intimate atmosphere for communication. Affectionate, often hugs and cuddle those who are sympathetic to him. Attentive to people. Very considerate and helpful, but can easily quarreling, if it something does not like. He has a sharp tongue, his words never at a loss. It is usually quick, emotional, he was willing to make a compliment, sometimes with podkovyrkoy. Fidgety and restless, but knows how interesting and fun to relax. Gourmet, is able to cook well, hospitable. Mimics a live, quick and graceful movement. Often has several rounded body shape. He dresses elegantly, and with charm, loves expensive things is wasteful.

    Character: Cheerful, energetic person. Benevolent to people, polite and helpful. Protector of the weak and defenseless people, gentle with children. Aesthete, a good designer, dressed tastefully, tries to create a cosiness in the house and in the workplace. Hospitable, prefers a beautiful and delicious serving of cooked food. He likes to give presents and arrange a pleasant surprise.

    Charming and interesting conversationalist. Sociable, attentive to people, everyone can understand, to find an individual approach, to cheer up good joke or a compliment. Well feel the mood of other people, sympathize with them, tries to help by word or deed. Can not hide my feelings, both positive and negative. Can not tolerate hypocrisy, injustice and cruelty. Excitable and unrestrained, but othodchiv and nezlopamyaten.

    Persistent and straightforward in relationships, if convinced of its rightness. By the advice of others is not always listen, "prefer to get their way. In life, all he seeks, not relying on others. Shows authoritativeness and exacting in business. Is able to actively defend its interests and those of loved ones, fighting back strongly to his opponents.

    Much can do with their hands. Often overloaded with cases like his and others'. Poor counting his time, spending a lot of effort on marginal cases, because of what may not have time to do all the time. Ashamed of his lack of organization, so we try to discipline themselves.

    Is too trusting and careless, poorly predicts the outcome of brewing activities in the future, so it can perform reckless actions, making the wrong steps, which later regret.

    Industrious, performers and conscientious. Commencement of the work tries to bring to an end. Successfully engaged in any practice and loves to appreciate his efforts. In the interests of business with enthusiasm runs the chain of command. A good organizer, tries to create conditions for effective work, encourages others to active work.

    Does not like uncertainty, both in cases and in dealing with people. Strives for stability, both at work and personal life. Respect of serious, reliable and motivated people. Loves it when information is presented briefly and clearly distinguish the main and are based on facts. His opinion is expressed when competent in this matter. Tries to be credible, painfully endures criticism of their professional qualities.

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    Robespierre, LII, INTj (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Logical subtype: Systemizer

    Appearance: Usually calm, serious and restrained. Is quite categorical, uncompromising and even peremptory in his judgments. When the topic of conversation does not interest him, silent and stern, looks askance at point blank range at his companion. His cold penetrating glance it is difficult to sustain. If the person does not behave very respectfully, can put it in place. Able to clearly and concisely, without undue emotion to express his thought, does not like long discussions. Spends much time in thinking, analyzing and comparing different phenomena, facts and figures. Impression of strong-willed person. Lips tightly compressed, it is clear, jerky, but the voice is not rich hues. Holds exactly, correctly, bezemotsionalno. However, facial expressions, usually frozen, reflects the inner emotions of sudden impulsive movements of muscles.

    Character: Has good analytical thinking, well-developed logic. Likes to compile the facts are well versed in the schemes, classifications and structures. Always allocates most importantly, cutting off the secondary. This is - man of his word. A supporter of discipline and order, based not on administrative pressure, and the conscience, duty and sense of personal responsibility. Believes that, if the person himself has made his choice, he should be fully accountable for the decision, if necessary, may reprimand. Functional. The case raises important than personal interests and relationships. In the interest of the case can not be with their facilities. Appreciates fairness and reasonable order throughout.

    Able to plan activities so as to avoid unnecessary congestion. Realistic about the prospects and able to take the case. Distrustful of new ideas until you test them, and checking, may be their staunch supporter.

    Prefers to keep a calm, measured life. Tries to maintain the health of a key to a good performance.

    Costs to a minimum of things, does not seek to comfort, do not like frills. Purposeful, consistently and persistently seeks to achieve goals. Likes to do several things at once, especially in a hurry. Scrupulous in detail work. Can force yourself to make an uninteresting, but necessary work. Inclined to submit to his high demands.

    Does not like to defend their interests, but you can fend for themselves, showing stubbornness and intransigence. Does not suffer, that they commanded, coolly responds to a volitional pressure, the sharp criticisms may respond in kind. Himself resorting to violence is very rare, when other measures do not help.

    Straightforward in their behavior, not enough diplomatic and inflexible in their relations. Fairly stable in their feelings and affections. Does not like uninvited guests, unexpected phone calls. Initiative in communicating with strangers does not show. Usually has a few friends, limiting their range of mainly co-workers and associates. Poorly versed in how to apply it around, so it is quite restrained in communication. Hides his impressionability under the guise of austerity. Does not seek to conquer the sympathy of others, always polite and serious.

    Attentive to a close, but reluctantly engaged in domestic problems. More time gives their work or hobbies. Prefers to talk about what interests him, too many details missing. If the topic does not interest him, trying to get away from the conversation, because they do not want to waste time. Does not like compliments, too much attention to myself and annoying advice, but in the soul needs a positive evaluation of their activities.

    2. Intuitive subtype: Researcher.

    Appearance: It looks a bit uncertain, and even gentle in the way people interact. It is not always categorical in his statements, but rather stubborn and uncompromising in his actions. Can remain silent and abstain from discussion, but his opinion does not change. His hidden emotion manifests itself in the moment of extreme nervous tension in the tones of voice and impulsive gestures. In a conversation restrained, careful, trying to win his interlocutor, giving advice and impressed with his knowledge and findings. In such cases, a serious look wears off, the voice appears goodwill. Can bring distance in communication, but to a certain limit. Gait quiet, synchronous, noticeable tightness in the shoulders. Movement, on the contrary, slowed down a little and insecure. Poses shackled, hand gestures - sparing and restrained, sometimes unconsciously impulsive, poorly coordinated.

    Character: Good sense of perspective of new ideas and initiatives. Knows how to assess the ability of partners to find their correct application. He likes to analyze various phenomena and processes. Willing to develop new ideas for practical application. Inclined to all new and unusual, especially if it is within the scope of his interests. Has a rich imagination. Always trying to make in their work the elements of creativity. Can deeply explore the narrow issue, but the interest and related areas. Excitement to the dispute, is able to inspire others with his idea.

    May be a good speaker, able to concisely and lucidly convey the material to the listener. Opponent administrative pressure: believes that it limits the expression of individual abilities. I am sure that the most important work is not an obligation, and interest in the case. Seek independence. However, disciplined, punctual and mandatory. Sam makes his schedule and well he should. The events do not usually late, and in general can be stowed in the allotted time.

    Does not like bureaucracy, walking the chain of command, registration papers. Exhibits inertia in such matters, even if he sees that it is suffering, or to rely on others. Yielding in matters of everyday life. Household and other routine affairs of trying to defer if it can not avoid them. It is not always concerned about their health, although I understand its meaning. In the treatment of diseases it also lacks consistency. In the best of trying to follow the fashion, have an aesthetic appearance.

    Has a stable performance, but the routine gets tired easily and needs new experiences, change. Is too categorical in his judgments, intolerant of other points of view, is not inclined to drastically change his views, findings, settings, or habits under the influence of new facts and circumstances. Because of self-esteem and developed self-esteem it can be difficult to admit they were wrong, so it is difficult to review in such cases, his earlier views, showing sometimes senseless obstinacy. All this makes it easy to partner and brings a lot of ethical issues in his life. Internally, it can be hard to relive their frustration, but tries to avoid quarrels, afraid to go out of itself and of "losing face". Often skeptical and distrustful, but tries to conceal it. Kept in a display of emotions, but when he's in a good mood, can enliven the conversation, analyzing the events occurring with a sense of humor.

    Tries to develop a tolerance for people and their weaknesses, as well as to other points of view, but without compromise in the debate with an opponent, injures his principles. Usually able to listen to the interlocutor, to encourage his initiative in useful activities. Restrained, to the best of kind, polite and even-tempered with everyone, but rarely converges with people very closely, so as to quickly get tired of communication. If you are interested in a man is able to locate it for themselves, establishing intellectual contact, and pulling new ideas and suggestions.

    Rather secretive, dislikes discussing his personal life and does not allow his feelings to prevail over the interests of business or personal principles. Although relations with other reserved and mistrustful, but inclined to reciprocate the feelings of another person, in this case begins to show attention to its problems. Looking for a foothold in the active, lively and strong in spirit people who know how to cheer him up and support in business matters. Needs to be emotional, optimistic partner who knows how to raise his vitality. But at the slightest infringement of the independence of its withdrawal, stubbornly defending its principles, until the break in relations. Gives a guide only to people who are able to persuade gently, not too aggressively.

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    Zhukov, SLE, ESTp (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Sensory subtype: Coordinator.

    Appearance: Looks like a man witty, impulsive, tayaschim a veiled threat and not accommodating. In fact, he is sharp, fairly aggressive and persistent. Can be vindictive and resourceful enough to make the lives of their fundamentals detractors simply unbearable. Has the character of contrasting and unpredictable. With those whom he loves, it happens from time to time is very tender and even sentimental. Has such a sense of humor, which can be easily transformed into a caustic sarcasm or irony. Talkative, charming, witty, critical and harsh, like epithets, and slang expressions. His movements are quick and springy gait slightly rolling gait, his knees slightly bent while walking, which gives it a feline suavity. Characterized by appraising glance with a slight squint. Usually monitor their health from time to time engaged in sports or gymnastics. He dresses expensively and tastefully decorated. Usually produces a vivid impression of a confident, prosperous man.

    Character: persistent, energetic and determined person. Seeking his acts, both directly and through intermediaries. He usually can not be a winner. Able to manage people, can impose its will and desire, carries useful and interesting things. Knows how to please: charming, humorous, a good conversationalist. This is a natural leader: he needed a struggle, passion, victory without his vitality drops. Boredom - his mortal enemy. Lack of decent employment of forces makes it quite difficult partner.

    Configured for large real purpose, but often had difficulty in choosing them. Long swings, doubts, ponders. But if the choice is made, acts quickly, picking up the pace and not calming down until you realize our plans. This is a very resourceful and flexible tactics. Active and active during periods of recovery develops uncommon performance. Does not like unsolicited advice, preferring to take decisions independently. Can listen to the interlocutor, but the last word usually reserves. Clerk does not make a pitch if he is under pressure - strong fight back. In the interest of business takes diplomatic skills, courtesy and civility.

    Does not like when others take the initiative, it may seem inappropriate: for example, something imposed or hurry up - in this case can do the opposite. Very proud and touchy, though trying to hide it, considering his weakness. Tactless and does not forgive the injustice towards themselves. This could trigger an outbreak in his aggressiveness.

    Insightful, witty, has a critical mind. In anger showing intolerance to others' shortcomings. Knows how to give a brief description and capacious person to ridicule at the event in the presence of strangers, "put in a puddle." Actively defends the interests of both itself and loved ones. Undesirable people can create an unfavorable environment, but those whom he loves, trying to ensure the comfort, showing care and attention.

    Proud of its successes and to achieve high estimation of his personality. Has a tendency to overestimate their strengths, which leads to arrogance and a desire to teach others. Self-confidence and lack of self-criticism does not facilitate his relationships with others. Respects people influential and authoritative. Forgiving of flexible, soft and vulnerable, in need of assistance, especially to children. Often provides them with protection and support. Nevertheless, strict, even harsh at home and at work.

    Very stubborn and demanding. In personal relationships with difficulty adapting to the partner as pretty neustupchiv. Effort of will can force herself to subdue a feeling mind, proud and independent. Often unpredictable in their actions, depends on the variability of mood. Quite unstable in hobbies, but his affection is trying to keep a long time. Cherish old friendships, while sentiment in the relationship usually does not show.

    Tends to a high material standard of living. Has a good aesthetic taste, gourmet, can not deny myself that gives him pleasure. Dared to sex, but mistrustful of love, afraid to be deceived in their hopes, taking wishful thinking. Quickly tired of the monotony: he was impressed by the psychological game with a partner, when hope is replaced by doubt - this is an element of excitement.

    2. Logical subtype: ORGANIZER.

    Appearance: It leaves the impression of quiet strength and confidence. Rational and consistent in his affairs. Industrious and hardy. Usually calm, seasoned, and unruffled, but in moments of irritation does not conceal his rage, which manifests itself in her eyes and sharp, categorical gestures. In the quiescent state is polite, courteous, though keeps the interlocutor at some distance. His humor is sharp and rude. He is quick, suspicious glance from under his eyebrows. View is generally a serious, watchful. Gait and gestures of a harmonious, smooth and clear. Worn a few monotonous and strictly, although at times suddenly throw or extravagant. Appreciates quality clothing, occasionally creating ensembles of a few things. In most cases, tends not to stand too. This applies both to the behavior and clothing. Seems cold and inaccessible, while trying to be correct, smooth and friendly. Rests with dignity.

    Character: balanced, sustained: trying not to lose his equanimity in all circumstances. Reserved and polite in his statements, although at times can flare up. Very sorry when it comes out of himself in front of strangers.

    Authoritative, serious, has a well developed sense of self-esteem. Prefers to talk about what feels competent. Enjoyed by public officials or well-trusted source of information. New theories, untested practices, hypotheses and assumptions do not trust. Skeptical okkultizmu and esoteric.

    Interested in laws and regulations, can well lead the documentation. If you turn to him for advice, delves into the details of the case and gives concrete advice.

    Reasonable, says confident tone, assures the facts. Very practical, not fond of theories and inappropriate actions. In contact with strangers using indirect questions ascertain their position in society, respect and opportunities, seeking land on which you can get together with them to solve common business interests.

    This is a man of action, not reflection, and when the time comes to respond, he immediately focused in the changed circumstances, goes boldly to the risk, well-weighed all the chances and do not lose their interest.

    Enthusiastically adopted a new business. Likes to act boldly, risks "on a major, to prepare for this thorough and detailed.

    Rational, pragmatic and hard-working. Very logical and practical in business. Punctual and is required, demanding to themselves and waiting for the same from others. Monitors the quality throughout. Does not forgive schlock and negligence. Efficacy was assessed not by the efforts expended, and on the final result.

    Lives by reason, it puts beyond personal sympathy because of what might unwittingly offend his interlocutor, not giving any importance to this.

    Not demonstrative, but he likes to emphasize in the case of his accomplishments. Proud, if anything in life seeks its own.

    Mobilized in advance to overcome future obstacles, having considered all the risks in advance of the current situation. Always good to feel the real situation and is able to benefit from it. Knows how to properly arrange people to do things, well assess their business skills. Difficult to understand and less confident to assess further the prospects of affairs and relationships.

    Authoritarian and strong-willed person, but if you can show flexibility in communication, even to go on temporary assignment for the ultimate goal. Understands the importance of material incentives and knows how to use them, without losing their benefits. Showing kindness to others and affability, but in matters strictly requires cohesion and conformity.

    Misses, if no use to his abilities, and if he is forced to follow through on something that he had already lost interest or does not submit to it of practical interest. Only new experiences and frequent changes of activity up his vitality.

    Offers to his people attention and concrete services. In his heart a little suspicious, distrustful and suspicious. Afraid of dirty tricks and treachery of those trusts. Inclined to periodically pessimistic and melancholy.

    Thinking about their problems, especially personal agenda, trying not to spend them around.

    In moments of despair, in need of understanding, empathy and comfort, but because of distrust are often hesitant to be frank. Often resort to alcohol to relieve stress.

    Rather secretive, does not like him "climb into the soul", can evade direct conversation, skilfully put interlocutor in place. View soul can only be a very close and tested friend.

    Restraint in the expression of feelings as a guarantee of seriousness and reliability. Proud and unobtrusive, does not know how to entertain guests, rarely compliments even women. Experiencing difficulty in expressing their feelings. Afraid of becoming dependent, even to close friends.

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    Esenin, IEI, INFp (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Intuitive subtype: an idealist.

    Appearance: It looks calm, tactful, slow, diffident man. It seems divorced from reality, an inert and little adapted to life. But this is a mistake because he has excellent insight, helping him to establish useful contacts and find support from influential people. Acts on the surrounding soothing and relaxing. Outwardly serene, but inwardly sentimental and is prone to long survive their troubles. Mimics some monotonous, often expresses mild surprise or full interest conversationalist. Look dreamy, slightly tense, with glitter. It is often sad, attentive or slightly ironic. These dimensions, smooth, intimate, sincere. On the face of almost constant presence polite, with its half-smile of confidence. Gestures are modest, timid, nedemonstrativnye. Gait is slow, smooth.

    Character: gentle, considerate person. In the soul - a dreamer and romantic. Has shaped memory can reproduce the experience of the past to the smallest detail. Looking back, sees all the blunders and mistakes, extracts from them a lesson for the future. Thanks to a strong intuition sees near-term prospects of affairs and relations, but because of the tendency to idealize everything, can they be overstated. In any difficulties do not lose hope that in future all goes better than the present.

    Several unsure of himself, inclined to doubt or hesitation in a situation of decision. Does not like to rush, may delay the solution to the problem indefinitely. Does not aspire to leadership, it is difficult given the organizational functions, tends more to the intellectual sphere of activities than to production.

    We can be distracted by irrelevant detail and thus has no time to do in life are more important things. Does not like stereotypes, strict orders, the need to obey the regulations and instructions. In an apartment or in the workplace may allow the artistic mess. He hardly gives economy and sober approach to the cases because of what can sometimes lose big chances.

    Dislikes routine and monotony tends to new experiences, interesting and unusual people. Loves to talk about various mysterious phenomena. Willingly accepts and promotes the extraordinary ideas and innovative approaches, but is being cautious in new endeavors, preferring to cede the initiative more stubborn and punching people. However, the need to exercise extraordinary diplomatic skills, achieving success where others retreat, straight and eager partners, not value flexibility in the relationship.

    Sensitive and attentive to people, trying to maintain equal relations with all. Because of absent-mindedness sometimes forgets its promises, but then did their best to make amends. At the same time tolerant to other people's flaws and weaknesses. Do not know which of the two disputants preferred, therefore, tries to reconcile them.

    Needs moral, physical and material support. Respects the strong authoritative people. Exhausted relationship breaks immediately, since it is very accustomed to people. Knows how to wait patiently, adapting to any conditions. For the sake of good relations with relatives, trying to meet its requirements, is trying to cultivate business skills, to perform work and family responsibilities.

    2. Ethical subtype: Diplomat.

    Appearance: the impression of a soft, charming and emotional person. Usually looks inspired and optimistic. Has a good sense of humor. About their problems and failures can tell with a smile. Ironic, cunning, unpredictable and inconsistent in their behavior and conversation. Creating original contrasts, can suddenly prick and just as quick to hug and kiss. Artistic, charming, laid-back in communication, sometimes with a tinge of familiarity and impudence. Is able to bring together the distance. Courteous, polite and considerate. Sometimes he simply charming, so great his art is like and have the people to him. Able to persuade. Presents the request in such a way that it is difficult to deny. Graceful motion, even theatrical. Gait is graceful, fast. These emotional, rich hues, sometimes melodious.

    Character: emotional, charming, easily and naturally comes into contact with strangers, having to trust warmth and sincerity. Knows how to cheer up others, laughing unusual antics and utterances. Figuratively, with a good sense of humor tells of his experiences and what they saw. Well versed in the feelings and sentiments of the people, knows how to build useful contacts in order to achieve their goals and find the most likely actors conceived. Their requests invests in such form that he can not refuse.

    Loves to be in the spotlight. Elegant, skillful in their ability to please, willing to make compliments to others. Each is able to find a personal approach. Loves and knows how to reconcile the disputants. It is often ironic and sarcastic, but even the unpleasant things said in jest as it were, with a smile. Unobtrusive in his feelings, if you do not see reciprocity - moving away.

    It is easy to light up a new idea, but can quickly lose interest in it, if it requires for its realization a lot of patience and effort. Is in need of praise and encouragement, are sensitive to criticism of their work and unsung efforts of others. From this it is working is reduced. At the same time, advances given praise encourages him to overcome difficulties, helping to gain confidence in themselves.

    Several suspicious and inspire, tend to demonstrate to others their physical and moral suffering. Sensing danger, their mood of anxiety passes to others. In his heart is very vulnerable and very upset by their failures. Self-contradictory, prone to sudden mood swings: from laughter to tears, and vice versa. Their case proves hot, tips perceives only calmed down and then up to the next emotional outburst. Needs the support of a forceful, strong, energetic person.

    Willingly share their problems with others, seeking sympathy, understanding, support. Consults with others before making important decisions, although not always this advice should be. Independent by nature, impulsive, unpredictable in their actions. Tends to ad lib and improvisation.

    In some situations, admiration and surprise surrounding his fearlessness in danger. Valyazhen and unruffled, but this is only his tactics, allowing to make an impression on others. His serenity is valid in many infectious, can escape from everyday worries and problems.

    Graceful in his movements, demonstrates the refinement, good manners, tastefully dressed. Chistoploten, flavorful in everyday life, has aesthetic taste, like fine trinkets. Seeks to comfort. Cares about the appearance of both your own and loved ones. Can buy extra things, wasteful and neekonomen not like those who are generous with the details. Does not value things like his and others'. Giving or taking them in debt, can permanently forget about them.

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    Hamlet, EIE, ENFj (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Ethical subtype: A teacher.

    Appearance: This is - internally emotional, but usually modest and restrained in expressing their feelings of people. Unobtrusive in dialogue, trying to behave according to rules of etiquette. Touchy and vulnerable, in the soul often undergoing dramatic emotion, but in front of strangers is constrained and does not give them the will. He found it hard to relax, he inwardly tense, vulnerable and quite ambitious. He has a lot of complexes, from which he often suffers, but tries not to show it. Externally is proud and inaccessible. Normally secretive, cautious, thinks everything in advance. Several unsure of themselves, but patient and persevering, able to achieve their goals. Very picky about the fact that others comply with ethical norms of behavior, and often can not refrain from comments and advice, if he sees that people do, from his point of view, wrong. He characterized the change of mood. Sometimes it is cold, arrogant, stubborn and demanding, then a soft, sincere, courteous and even helpless. Rests with the dignity of the Movement of firm, smooth, sometimes stressed demonstrative. Dress modestly and tastefully, but if he wants to, can look very impressive.

    Character: Tends to constant analysis of people and events. A lot of reflecting on moral and ethical problems. Tries to impart to others their understanding of various phenomena, or outlook, help you avoid mistakes in life or in specific occupations.

    Prudent and cautious. Sensing the impending danger, is able to take the necessary steps to avoid it. Inclined to over-dramatize the events and to warn others of potential trouble. Trying to warn relatives of people from wrong actions, may be unnecessary initiative, even a bit obsessive. With strangers charming and helpful, usually tries to make a good impression. Welcome, has a wide circle of friends, honest with them, but to a certain limit.

    Anticipating further developments, does not like to rush, slow in making a decision, hesitates, weighing all the pros and cons. Do not like being rushed. Ignores attempts by others to impose a different rate. In a conversation a lot of attention to detail.

    Often takes the initiative in dating and contacts. Configured correctly, friendly attitude towards him. Needs to be sensitive, careful treatment, can not tolerate familiarity in communication. Proud, vulnerable, long remembered insults. Respects people not only for their personal qualities, but also in society. Tries to understand the motives of others and anticipate their future actions, to give timely advice.

    In his heart a romantic, puts feelings above reason. Emotional, barely conceals his feelings, but actions usually proceed with caution. Only careful consideration, is able to accept a radical solution. After this is no longer inclined to compromise. Would rather be defeated than to renounce their beliefs, as prone to autosuggestion. Suspicious by nature, skeptical, critical of the actions of others. Appreciate the words, but prefers the concrete evidence of feelings and practical services.

    Cherishes its reputation of business people. Mistrustful of unverified information. Afraid to make mistakes and because responsibility for any job prefer to share with someone else. Performers and very serious about the work assigned. Likes to do several things at once, but when he feels that pull no longer, can exert more energy and perform a significant amount of work for a short time.

    Usually focuses on the important issues on which it is difficult to distract. In the interests of business are often drawn to people with small requests and orders, fearing to lose sight of something important. Accurate in detail the work, all bring to the end. Strives for order and aesthetics in everyday life. Picky about his appearance, following the appearance and behavior.

    He hardly gives inner balance. Because of this, it is often suppressed. Suspicious and proud. Does not like being watched, is inclined to do household chores without witnesses. Sufficiently self-critical, mistrustful to compliment your address, and suffers painful criticism of his appearance and behavior.

    2. Intuitive subtype: Artist.

    Appearance: the impression of a business, active and sociable person. Original and unpredictable creative person. Dresses are sometimes unusual and extravagant, and sometimes simply and modestly. Jerky motion, impulsive, but not uninhibited, and somewhat squeezed. Sociable, curious and talkative. Quite emotional, vulnerable and impressionable. Internal stresses, is experiencing frequent doubts and hesitations, because what happens is unpredictable in their actions. It is sometimes hot-tempered and brusque. Very artistic, emotionally liberated, easy and free to express their feelings. Feels good mood, and other skill to operate it. He can speak with feeling and enthusiasm, sometimes with pathos. Very ironic, critical, sometimes sarcastic and arrogant. In a good mood can be the focus of any company. Quite practical, though he lacks self-confidence.

    Character: A good strategist, a real sense of their chances, and who knows how to choose the right time for certain actions. Knows how to properly distribute the event in time. Likes to start useful business contacts, has organizational skills. She is not afraid to take on big business, with which it is sometimes difficult to handle due to the revaluation of its capabilities. Assessing the general laws, is trying to highlight the main thing, but being distracted by new problems may delay the duration of the main case.

    Eloquent, a good speaker, able to speak with enthusiasm, expressing various shades of emotions - from excitement and enthusiasm to subtle irony and sarcasm. You may unconsciously fantasize, giving his story tinge of sensationalism and drama. Has a developed sense of humor, knows how to copy voice or demeanor of others. Being a rather demonstrative behavior is often in the limelight, able to win the audience. Produces a vivid impression on others. Possesses a strong persuasion. Knows how to captivate people with his idea and the story behind him.

    Constant interest in people enhances social circle. In this regard, may spend much time communicating with people who disappoint him later. In a good mood amiable, animated, compliments, admiration abilities of others, is the soul of the company. Willing to help people solve their problems. In a bad mood - thoughtful, gloomy, pessimistic, tends to seclusion. Suspicious by nature, skeptical, critical of the actions of others. Appreciate the words, but prefers the concrete evidence of feelings and practical services.

    Undergoes constant inner emotional tension, and therefore needs to be periodically discharge the accumulated emotions. In the routine of his vitality drops. To get out of this state may make rash actions, which are later regretted. Is inconsistent and unpredictable in their actions. Bold and decisive in emergency situations.

    Often idealize a loved one and is able for him to different victims. Is able to beautifully express your feelings, very upset by failure and disappointment. Independent in his judgments, and often justifies those who condemn others. Quite categorical in his statements: We believe that liberalism is not going to help restore order in society. Intolerant of evil, protecting the aggrieved or his ideas, is not considered to authorities.

    Impatient, do not like to wait, it bothers uncertainty. But discipline and strict control of his oppressed, he prefers the creative freedom. Believes in unlimited human ability and likes to show his own. Superstitious, occult sciences are interested in unusual and enigmatic phenomena. A little insecure, afraid of diseases, but systematically take care of health is not able to. Reluctant to talk on topics of their health and appearance. Tries to dress tastefully, it is strictly and elegantly, the spectacularly extravagant, and sometimes even carelessly. Dislikes unnecessary things.

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    Maxim Gorky, LSI, ISTj (Meged, Ovcharov, subtypes)

    1.
    Logical subtype: Instructor.

    Appearance: confident, calm, restrained, dry, polite and inscrutable. Sometimes it seems arrogant. To the best kind, imperturbable and bezemotsionalen. Very polite and attentive to detail a conversation, likes everything to clarify and explain. Stops on is not very significant for other details. Unhurried, sometimes slow. Likes to get to their questions with detailed and comprehensive information. Does not like uncertainty. Internally, very composed.

    Never loses his presence of mind and tries to cheer up those who need its support. Has a direct, unmoving, looking as though through a buddy, a look, but not to test, but rather indifferent. Movement measured, but somewhat shackled. When walking, a little shoe shuffles. When rotated, it makes my whole body. It seems that the neck is fixed on the shoulders, does not like to turn his head.

    Character: Thorough performer. Intolerant of slackness and irresponsibility partners. Consistent in their deeds and decisions, always brings the follow through. He likes all the precision and concreteness, trusts only official sources of information. Good researcher narrow issues, to delve into all the details without losing sight of the little things. Accurately maintains documentation like to clarify the facts, willing to inform those who approach him for advice regarding any regulations and laws, which he usually knows.

    As an administrator, is able to establish a clear work, discipline and order. Uncompromising in what is considered important. The case raises important than personal relationships and moods. Management experience adheres to chain of command. Very functional, with a strong sense of duty, demanding to themselves and their subordinates. Insufficiently flexible in dealing with people, badly their individual capacity. Its hard to convince him to change his point of view.

    Always tries to be smooth, reasonable, do not go to extremes and not succumb to illusions. Everything is prepared in advance, because they do not like impromptu. Afraid of change and instability. Several controversial and prone to doubts, but does not undermine their internal vibrations of installation. Able to stay on an important choice, consistently and persistently overcoming all obstacles. Their knowledge prefers to implement in practice.

    Does not like running too advance to rush things, is able to patiently await the outcome of the case. Hard-nosed realist who knows how to find a way out of difficult situations. Stoic: overcomes any difficulties, not complaining. Restrained and unobtrusive. Quickly get tired of dealing with people is very tolerant of loneliness.

    Hidden: does not like to share their feelings with strangers. Do not show my feelings: hunger, fear and pain. He tries not to burden others are: resorts to close only in extreme cases. Do not trust people giddy, because they do not believe in the reliability of their feelings. Tolerant of the shortcomings of relatives. Is for them a reliable support. Conservative in outlook and habits. Tries to stabilize any situation bravely endures life's adversities and never fall apart.

    Modest and unpretentious in life. The main meaning of life in the work. If the passionate work, can give her the preference, disregarding their personal interests. Attentive and friendly companion who knows how to listen patiently, to advise.

    2. Sensory subtype: Controler.

    Appearance: Looks more restless in their behavior and inner emotional person. He malorazgovorchiv, but very stubborn and can come into conflict, when his opinion does not count. If you flew into a rage, sometimes too sharp and emphatic in his statements.

    Restrained, cold, does not like opposition and lengthy explanations. Continuing quietly watching the actions of others, trying to help them or point out errors. Sometimes indignant than ever, and makes comments, sometimes without words is taken for the cause himself, or trying to help make it better. Periods of trying to rectify the situation and then smiled with exaggerated courtesy. When walking, "churns" step. Gait is very fast. Looks like a man fit and active. He dresses conservatively, but sometimes tends to look aesthetically pleasing, even fashionable. During a conversation trying to get closer to his companion, but without direct contact. Not inclined to affectionate, even with home treatment.

    Character: persistent in achieving goals. Rather quickly versed in extreme situations, showing uncommon strength of will, practical resourcefulness and endurance. Can defend the interests of business in different situations, showing the energy and perseverance. Being a leader can exert pressure on subordinates, forcing them to work conscientiously, and has a tendency to "tightening the screws, to give instructions in imperative tones. Always supervise the implementation of its orders.

    As a rule, I am sure he is right based on facts and experience. Sometimes exhibits excessive stubbornness and intractability. Do not like it when he objected, impose their will and working methods. In his heart condemns the violation of the rules. If his arguments are not considered, can flare up and try to get everything done as it should.

    Puts all the uniform requirements without regard to individual characteristics, wary of new points of view on the subject of the dispute, so it is not easy changing its principles and guidelines. Prone to unfounded suspicions. He hardly gives inner balance. Despite this, very tough, both morally and physically. Appreciates the work done by the difficulties that were overcome for the sake of its implementation.

    Inquisitive, collects useful information, is interested in topics of morality and law, but deep into the personal lives of the people does not go, except out of politeness. About their feelings and personal affairs tells little.

    Periodically need emotional discharge, removing an internal stress. Does not hide his emotions and is waiting for a response from the partner's sincerity. Poorly versed in relation to other to itself, because it tends to doubt their sincerity or, conversely, their desire to be loved can be mistaken for love.

    Tends to aesthetics in the home and clothing, monitor the cleanliness and order. Industrious and much takes over, believing that it had obtained better than others. Devotedly takes care of loved ones, feeling for all the response. Provides everything you need for your home, is inclined to comfort, but does not like frills. Irritable when touched his things or doing things without his permission.

    Considers it his duty to help others in difficult moments for them, showing attention and sympathy, to provide necessary services. He was not always possible to maintain stable good relations with others because of the intransigence and straightness in the views and opinions. Their incontinence sometimes destroys the balance has been achieved previously in a relationship with partners.

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    'Often lacks determination and confidence in himself.' Determination may be lacking, but a lack of self-confidence is somewhat inconsistent with 4D-L, particularly in gamma where there's an optimum way of doing things.

    'In his soul he is--' speculation about others' souls is patently invalid. Even if such statements were made by a person of the same type, they could not be reliably extrapolated.

    'Subject to frequent doubts and fluctuations. Through his strong intuition he is able to predict the outcome of any undertaking...' --These two lines are contradictory for ILI. To begin with, it's not 'frequent doubts and fluctuations', which sounds a bit frantic. Doubts can be pervasive. One chooses the best possible course knowing sometimes when the moment has come to decide, the outcome remains uncertain. As for predictions, horoscopes and things are most appreciated by those with weak Ni. Competence in the function regularly proves the byzantine complexity of multiple changing variables. The approach of Ne is therefore to select several of many possibilities and try them, with no attachment to outcomes if results are bad --'throw everything at the wall and see what sticks' (btw, if you want to test whether someone is XSI, behave this way and see if they hate it). Ni mentally eliminates unlikely/flawed possibilities, which can sometimes leave a best result or a single eventuality. At other times the road remains forked however; Ni typically feels no great need to correct this because before long things will have shifted, and waiting for aspects of a situation to become clear is often the best way to decide which route is preferable. I agree that Ni implies a sort of frenetic mind, but without the resultant neuroticism in behaviour that would be seen if such changeability frightened the one observing it. The psychic palm-reader type is often XEI-Fe with SEI being paradoxically common -- by contrast, ILI do not waste time making a lot of predictions when outcomes remain uncertain. In fact, putting stacked and nested conditional statements into words is a tiresome activity. Assuming I'm ILI, I'd add the analysis of a situation happens automatically --half-subconscious, it's usually gelled a bit by the time someone asks 'So what now?'. This gives the illusion of preparedness, but sometimes I've not prepared at all; it's more like id-NeTi are working in the back rooms to perform damage control, and the good solution is just ready at my fingertips when required (whereas during group brainstorming exercises I usually won't participate, and when asked what style of music I prefer or what television programmes Ive watched recently, I draw a blank). As dynamic types, ILI recognise the moment (as time moves forwards) when the situation changes -- a critical point -- after which the path no longer forks. Diversion before this point is possible, after this point it's futile. For this reason, ILI can ruminate for quite some time on a seemingly-trivial detail preceding an event if it forms a sort of 'key'. Lastly, the two quoted sentences would not be paired in any predominantly logical mind. I agree that ILI are lazy but most people will take action when it serves them, and like any NT type, ILI have a need to know why certain things happen, which includes thorough understanding of all relevant processes. To wit, if ILI successfully predicted any and therefore all outcomes, then they would no longer be subject to doubts. Doubt would be needlessly emotional.

    'Prone to remembering his failures and mishaps for a long time.' -- Here at last one finds a perfectly true statement Unfortunately, I do not think this can be unique to ILI.

    'Person of habit' -- personally I'm not. I've a fair bit of trouble forming beneficial habits such as sleeping at the same hour or going to the gym on a Monday, or whatever it is. If I'm around others who are behaving properly it's easier. Then again if I'm really immersed in something, no amount of good influence can help; I'll only stop when my blood sugar has dropped and my stomach looks concave and I've got to crawl out of my dark area on trembling limbs lol

    'Dislikes unpleasant suprises' -- lol here's a shocker

    'Rarely takes the initiative in interaction himself; doesn't want to seem intrusive' --This seems so unlikely. Again perhaps I'm not the epitome of the type but I can't worry about 'seeming intrusive'; it's quite essential that I eschew sowing seeds of social anxiety because I do work best when left well alone. People have described first impressons of me as 'aloof' or 'very wealthy'; in one way or another, looking down from some sort of height. Such impressions are false; in fact I quite enjoy being proved wrong when I've ostentatiously assumed the worst in others; but if there's any sort of supercilious vibe it's not surprising people won't approach me; coming over more ~approachable wouldn't suit my aims either. Even if it seems troublesome, this behaviour pattern, far from mutually exclusive with ILI archetype, almost guarantees that I shall be the one to open communications in all cases, unless dealing with one of those testing Ep types, the sort to stick both hands into the fire to see how hot it gets. In dating, I've had enough people fancy me but wait for me to make the first move that it's come to seem propositioning is my natural role (Which isn't without comedic effect -- sometimes I have been so blind with terror when asking someone on a date that I've come over very stony-faced and been asked if I was taking the mickey lol. And the near-certainty that my feelings were mutual in a few cases did nothing to lessen the stage-fright). Viz., taking the initiative cannot possibly be uncommon for ILI, and meekly worrying about 'intrusion' instead of just reading the situation can't be too common either.

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