V.I. is not possible without other methods.
V.I. is only possible by analyzing facial expressions and body language.
V.I. is also possible by analyzing facial features, bodily frame, size of hands etc.
It doesn't, really.
Unless you're some kind of voodoo shaman priest, like everyone on the forum.
More or less, this.Originally Posted by Sergei Ganin
It sort of works with facial expressions and certain facial schemes, but people are way too overconfident in typing people with VI, and need to learn how to analyze and use their brain.
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nah...It DOES WORK...if you're good at sensing. especially extroverted sensing.
well...I'm sorry I guess it works only for certain types..hehehe (<douchey comment)
lemme make my point:
last 3 girls I've been with, I've visually typed from a distance...and been completely accurate.
now everywhere I go, everyone I meet, I visually type.
and then I find out, by getting to know them..if I'm right.
and 90% of the time, I am.
it works...just work on your Se, I guess
hahahaha, yeah we are totally disheveled (at the core) but some of us put on an act, and try to look less disheveled. (but we really don't care that much)
now, the method you described of Visual Typing, is precisely what I use.
and since I've been so fucking social (<<douchey comment)
I've met RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS of people...
and I've TYPED ridiculous amounts of people...
and I've logged each of their faces into my memory banks...
and through that, I have developed a very clear pattern recognition in my head...
it's mostly in the mannerisms...the eye movements...the posture...the...general energy level (E/I)...how much they generally smile (positivist/negativist)...and everything tied all together that allows me to make a well educated guess.
when they open their mouth...the puzzle pieces fit together.
HOWEVER: I've noticed that there's different...facial qualities that DIFFER with different RACES/ethnicity.
and so I've had to "learn" the "faces" of different "types" in different "races".
within a race, though, it's easy. it's all similar.
alright...well there ya go.
btw, nice to know you were thinking about me.
but I'm really not gay.
unless you're a chick.
but we can still be online friends
oh and btw, I totally got banned from the INTPcentral.com forums for being a douche
hahaha...
but I'm pissed about that too.
cuz you guys banned me...
like..wtf....who does that
hell yea I feel a sense of entitlement, being the dual...
even if it's disillusioned.
Analyzing (marytsa style) is not that reliable. Though eye movement etc can be seen.
Comparing face with people you know is more reliable. Same types have similar faces and movements etc.
But in the end you always need to check, and relationships or other vybes that you pick up are often even more clear then VI.
VI works, but it's one of the lesser methods, though because of it's possible 'instant hit' quality, it's nice to use it in your arsenal.
I agree - I share a simmilar approach which is, as I believe a NF way of typing . Sort of bulding a database of archetypes of socionics and matching people to these standards.
According to socionics everyone has his own way of perceiving the reality. The reality includes all kind of information which can possibly tell us about some aspect of it. A person to be typed sends us all possible kinds of information (all 8 socionical aspects). And as we all operate on different mechanisms (functions), we all use different approaches - none of them are better or worse by themselves. Only the way we use them can give them quality.
I've heard different kind of things about socionics and typing people and many statements were exaggerated - like if you have in your ego block then you should be good at 'reading' people. Whereas my /// have proved themselves right many, many times.
But then - the biggest bias, and black hole in the whole socionics is that there is NO objective way of telling someone's type and so there will always be those who "know better" even if they're wrong.
Until we find a way to make socionics a real thing we can argue about it to the day we die .