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    Quote Originally Posted by eunice
    Why is Nick Warnock an ESTp? He seems rather reserved and lack the "Se" factor. In terms of making decision, he takes a more "top-down" approach and is not open to ideas from his team members. As for risk taking, he tends to be more cautious and take the conventional approach, as compared to Troy McClain.
    I'll start with Troy. He's a definite ideas man. One of the other candidates gives an analysis of him that he brainstorms but requires someone else to choose the idea from the multitude he suggests and to run with it. In the apartment-letting task Troy sees an opportunity to outwit and be unfair toward the opponent, and he immediately seizes it. He is a career motivational speaker and likes talking to audiences. He is as obvious an ENT type as possible and the only question I had was whether he is an ENTP or an ENTj. He very much dislikes Bill Rancic who is an IP and befriends another sort of ethical introvert, Kwame, easily. these suggest ENTj rather than ENTp. Furthermore the habit of outpouring multitudes of ideas instead of just one big one, the easygoingness with crowds are also things that suggest Ni instead of Ne. Of the forum residents he seems quite close to what Joy is like. He too has a major social role function Fe. He easily expends emotional energy on Sam in the early episodes.

    Nick... there's nothing nice or social about him. He's both a commander, and a doer. He doesn't push his thoughts to the forefront so as to direct his team, so he doesn't show Te. Rather he pontificates privately to the audience and ... educates them. He is an introvert thinker. Ti is what he uses most. So the question becomes, why ESTp-Ti rather than ISTj-Ti, ENTp-Ti or INTj-Ti. Ok, well I wouldn't oppose ENTp-Ti for him, since that's pretty damn close to ESTp-Ti. But Nick doesn't give as much of the attitude of "I'm so clever" as Ne types do. Furthermore he acts very much like a "player" in the way he aggressively goes for Amy. So I have to consider him a beta rather than an alpha. So Why ESTp rather than ISTj? He doesn't put on airs the way ISTjs tend to. He seems to know he's being a sneaky little rat and accept that. In social situations ISTjs take the role of the magistrate, they're free to act because "justice" supports them, see Omarosa. ESTps who are unable to just directly pummel their opposition on the other hand tend to be very restrained, analyzing their opposition and looking for the weak spots. That is what we primarily see from Nick.

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    Nick is good friends with Sam, and seems to be the only one who actually really likes him, to the point that he swears vengeance on the others for Sam's tossing. Sam is as Fe as anyone cares to be. Nick from the very first spends an enormous amount of energy on hatching plans of how to destroy his competitors rather than how to win challenges. It's particularly evident on when he tries to get rid of Kwame in the restaurant challenge. He also has immediate and strong rapport with Trump. Trump identifies with Nick and protects him. In fact this "protecting their identicals" is hugely evident in all the conversations between the 3 judges throughout all seasons. Sometimes the socionics issue goes to ridiculous extent as in season one when Amy is chosen to move from one team to another by Nick for socionical and romantical reasons. In a task in which Amy does badly, Trump uses Nick's choice of Amy as an indicator that Amy is an effective person in a team and decides to fire Katrina instead, and this happens after Amy has chosen to identify Nick as the more effective partner in the team, again for socionical and romantic reasons thereby protecting him. Apprentice US is pretty much a socionics battle ground with a little bit of business thrown in. ...

    And incidentally, ESTps are generally more cautious than ENTjs. They just use such completely different tools to show this, that it's not always easy to see this. Let's just put it like this... If Tony Blair had been ESTp, he would not have idealistically marched off hand in hand with Bush to the Iraq war.
    Last edited by Smilingeyes; 12-30-2008 at 01:11 PM.
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